Phoenix
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Post by Phoenix on Feb 17, 2021 2:59:07 GMT
BONBON
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Round 15
Feb 17, 2021 3:05:41 GMT
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Post by Architect Pine on Feb 17, 2021 3:05:41 GMT
i guess i don't remember that bridge challenge in arkham city going over poorly? i liked it? i also liked borobadur, and i lost both of them I remember borobadur, that was cool and unique and also, I think it had a time out for people who got stuck. Or did it not? The mods suffered in that too. How long did that math challenge take in PCW? I spent hours and filled a dozen pages of a legal pad trying to find an algebraic solution to it when it was merely arithmetic. Challenges where there is a basic disconnect between expectation and solution are common fare, and they are maddening if you miss the trick.
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Phoenix
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Post by Phoenix on Feb 17, 2021 5:14:56 GMT
T.T why did bonbon unfollow snow?
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Phoenix
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Post by Phoenix on Feb 17, 2021 5:15:07 GMT
big sad
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A Rock
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Post by A Rock on Feb 17, 2021 5:31:08 GMT
I remember borobadur, that was cool and unique and also, I think it had a time out for people who got stuck. Or did it not? The mods suffered in that too. How long did that math challenge take in PCW? I spent hours and filled a dozen pages of a legal pad trying to find an algebraic solution to it when it was merely arithmetic. Challenges where there is a basic disconnect between expectation and solution are common fare, and they are maddening if you miss the trick. PCW had no time limit on theirs. One person scored specifically from just trying everything again and again and most other people just game up.
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Can Opener
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Post by Can Opener on Feb 17, 2021 5:34:45 GMT
Looks like this may be it for Bonbon. He got pretty screwed by this unmerge, no way does he go home without it. But also seems like he fundamentally failed his relationship with Bees. And I guess with Rey too if she left him defenseless like this.
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Can Opener
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Post by Can Opener on Feb 17, 2021 5:36:33 GMT
Also Avocado and T&H are the villains this game needs. They are so fun to root against.
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Post by A Rock on Feb 17, 2021 5:51:31 GMT
Tbf I do think the main issue with this challenge is more the placement. Like when challenges like this happen 2 things should probably be done: 1. Make it clear from the get go there is a trick to it and more importantly 2. Make it happen when individual immunity is on the line. The first makes it so people don't think they're crazy for the first half and the second shifts the reward structure of the challenge. Tribal immunities punish players for not figuring stuff out, Individual rewards player for figuring it out. And if you have one where the possibility is a large number of people don't then it's best to make it the latter. Having it as tribal immunity in already tiny tribes is going to make it be some stress overflow.
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Sunny
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Post by Sunny on Feb 17, 2021 5:59:24 GMT
I remember borobadur, that was cool and unique and also, I think it had a time out for people who got stuck. Or did it not? The mods suffered in that too. How long did that math challenge take in PCW? I spent hours and filled a dozen pages of a legal pad trying to find an algebraic solution to it when it was merely arithmetic. Challenges where there is a basic disconnect between expectation and solution are common fare, and they are maddening if you miss the trick. yep, me too. i probably should've realized they wouldn't actually expect us to do algebra.
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Can Opener
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Post by Can Opener on Feb 17, 2021 7:30:43 GMT
Once Bonbon goes next round becomes verrrry interesting....
Avocado-Bard-T&H Dark Rey-Grogu-Cleric
with Maggie and Bees somewhere in the middle.
Maggie and Bees really should be aligning and swinging back and forth between the groups, but I don't know if they will be doing that. I feel like their individual relationship with one another may not be strong? Not sure about that.
Maggie at least has a connection with Bard, but also with Dark Rey and Grogu. Probably best for her if the next few boots are Avocado, T&H and Cleric.
Bees...idk what Bees wants or who Bees is close to, they just kind of seem like they are drifting through aimlessly "wanting to do things" with a lot of people but ultimately not really doing anything with anyone. Maybe I'm wrong about that.
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Can Opener
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Round 15
Feb 17, 2021 7:34:26 GMT
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Post by Can Opener on Feb 17, 2021 7:34:26 GMT
Bees is/was apparently against Avocado, Bard, Maggie and Rey. Which leaves them with...not too many options.
I guess they are all in on T&H maybe??? Or Grogu???? Both people with a million other options, but T&H at least wants to sit next to Bees, even though I do think T&H beats Bees probably.
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Can Opener
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Round 15
Feb 17, 2021 7:35:24 GMT
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Post by Can Opener on Feb 17, 2021 7:35:24 GMT
Also Bees and Cleric did have something at some point, kinda forgot about that. That could be a great person for Bees to get in good with, but I could see Bees just letting them go.
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Post by OperatorMeme on Feb 17, 2021 11:33:08 GMT
Tbf I do think the main issue with this challenge is more the placement. Like when challenges like this happen 2 things should probably be done: 1. Make it clear from the get go there is a trick to it and more importantly 2. Make it happen when individual immunity is on the line. The first makes it so people don't think they're crazy for the first half and the second shifts the reward structure of the challenge. Tribal immunities punish players for not figuring stuff out, Individual rewards player for figuring it out. And if you have one where the possibility is a large number of people don't then it's best to make it the latter. Having it as tribal immunity in already tiny tribes is going to make it be some stress overflow. Interesting take with point #2, I never really thought of immunities that way. I think that's a solid point. Point #1 I'd agree with if it was hard to find out that you had to think outside the box - if, say, only the harder rules were broken in one of the images. I think we absolutely fixed this with making it very clear something was up though, by making sure every scan clearly broke the most obvious rule. The only people who missed this were Cleric (who didn't read the challenge properly and didn't realise one scan would be correct) and Bees (who didn't bother checking the final scan). The issue with the challenge was not giving a hint as to what to do *after* they found out something was wrong, I think.
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Post by OperatorMeme on Feb 17, 2021 11:34:31 GMT
I'm v sad Bees didn't yeet Bonobo here. Was looking forward to Maggie getting some company!
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Post by Owen Wilson as Kenny Bostick on Feb 17, 2021 13:37:30 GMT
T.T why did bonbon unfollow snow? he is preparing to die.
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