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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 10, 2021 20:09:46 GMT
Rey Rey: Alright! Finally! I feel like I can actually get to know people now! What do you think of this tribe? I hope the fact the I'm here means that the Droids really do want to make amends, and not that I'm here as a sacrifice. Bees?: I think it's a pretty solid tribe. Feels like a bit of a mix of everybody, there's a lot of people who haven't been together in a long time or are completely new to each other. I don't think you're here to be a sacrifice, no. I do think that the intent was to split you up from Monk though. It looks like the way everything was set up anybody who might be a possible pair got split up as balanced as possible. Rey: You're probably right. The droids probably want me for themselves Everyone here is someone I've found generally pleasant, so it's going to be hard if it comes to a vote. Bees?: Oh no, are you saying you're a one person type girl? How will the rest of us cope? ;~; Yeah I'm feeling the same way actually. Everybody here is pretty decent, so any TC is going to be gross. So let's just... not go to TC, yeah! Best plan! Rey: There's two droids ya know. But, actually. I would consider myself to be.. open. Hopefully, I made a good decision there, and it all works out! Bees?: Hahaha. I did know that. That is an excellent follow-up. From what I could tell you did Sorry I couldn't contribute more though. I was not expecting to be gone all day. You put in so much effort and I definitely appreciate that a lot. Rey: Not much more we can talk about the challenge. How's your weekend so far? I have some exciting things happening today that I can't really discuss here. Bees?: Yeah I know. Well my yesterday was crazy busy, today has been a lot quieter which is what I want from the rest of the weekend really. Quiet just sounds nice. I hope those exciting things go well then!! Rey: Yes they did! Quiet can be nice too. Sometimes, I wish i could just make my mind be quiet. or quieter at least. Bees?: I feel you on that. There are some days that brains don't shut up, those days are the worst. I hope you're having a good day today though Rey: eh. a little under the weather. probably side effects of the second dose of covid vaccine i had yesterday. Merge is exciting. I always make my goal to at least make it here. Bees?: Oh hey, congrats on getting vaccinated! That's exciting. I don't even qualify for a single dose let alone my second. Merge is great! I'm glad you reached your goal Rey: It often feels like the rest of the game is set up for the conditions of the merge, and then that's where the real game starts. Everything that happens now will be brought to it's conclusion one way or another. no running off into another tribe. Bees?: I completely agree with you. I think that's a lot of what the game is really. It's: okay, survive these things and set up some kind of plan with the info that you've got, and hope that you have enough info and skill, to utilize when it comes to the final showdown area. It's one of the reasons i really like playing these games. Rey: problem for me is that i'm a bit of a disadvantage when it comes to info. Bees?: Well, whatcha wanna know? Rey: hey, sorry for not getting back to you. i guess one question would be which people are seen as threats. also there's of course this tc. i'm not sure where i want to go with it yet. and, i haven't heard any names yet. have you? Bees?: Hey it's okay, it sounds like you had some stuff going on. I think it depends who you ask. I'm not sure there's any one single person who sticks out among anyone else as a threat. People who keep excelling in challenges are likely the bigger threats. I kinda crashed after results so I haven't heard anything as of yet. It didn't sound like anybody had any sort of plan. Rey: I'm hearing Ranger at this point. Bees?: I wouldn't be against a Ranger vote, not even a little. I haven't heard from the guy this merge, and know very little about him. Rey: haha. i think you're not alone there Bees?: I haven't heard anybody even bring him up. I imagine you know a bit about there being a weird sort of narrative between you and Dave as counterwagons, yeah? I don't imagine you were the source of the Dave push as it sounds like people are assuming you might be. I'm also not interested in engaging in that or voting there. Rey: HUh. Well, I heard that was a name going around. Yeah. I don't really know much about this supposed Dave push. I think someone might be trying to push Dave while attaching my name to it. idk Bees?: No no, sorry, you misunderstand. Ranger IS going around as a name, largely because nobody has talked to him or has anything to say about him. Sorry. Ranger is honestly my preferred vote here. I think that's what could be happening. Or maybe they're taking something you said to mean you want Dave gone? Cuz that often happens where people misunderstand what somebody else said and takes it places and it sounds like something more than what actually happened. Rey: oh ok, i think i misread something. Like, I did ask questions about Dave because I had heard that he was a consideration in the last TC, but I never said, I wanted to go for him in any way. Maybe it is a misunderstanding. I hope it's just that. Bees?: It's okay, I'd rather clear it up so we both are on the same page Ahhhh, yeah that's probably exactly what happened then. If you asked questions about a person, often people think that means you want to vote out that person. Else why would you ask, right? But in your case, I think you're just trying to get any sort of information you can, is that right? Also, you seem like the sort who mean exactly what you say at face value, nothing more and nothing less, yeah? Rey: Exactly. I'm still developing in my sense of who's what and where. I have been called straightforward before. I guess I'm not one for ambiguity as much. Bees?: And there's definitely nothing wrong with that. Being straightforward is helpful in games like this I think. If people know that about you anyways. Means they know where you stand all the time. Rey: Hmm. I don't know that I always want to be totally transparent. That just sounds like a way to get outplayed. Bees?: Oh, I don't think you're totally transparent. I just more mean like, being able to have a good sense of what you think and want is easier when you're straightforward. Maggie Maggie: There's nothing silly whatsoever about being passionate about LSGs. I think I was talking with someone earlier about how I love the Survivor gameshow as a concept because of how it forces people from all sorts of different background and walks of life to be stuck on and island together and talk to each other. How cool is that! While LSGs will naturally be not quite as varied as the real show, I have certainly had conversations to a depth that I would rarely have in other contexts, and have gotten to know people in ways that mean a lot to me. I can get really passionate about all sorts of things. I'm really big about stigma in all sorts of contexts and how it affects how people are treated. But on a more casual note, I will also talk for hours about things I like and why I like them, things I don't like and why I don't like them. Especially things like films or music and the meaning that those sorts of media create, or even food! And why some food combinations have worked and why some haven't. And yeah it really just keeps going and going now that I think about it. "I also like STUFF" is probably the most apt response in summary. Haha! I am shocked that I was even right about one thing. Next I will predict that a super-idol will fall from the sky and land into my lap. Now that I've said it, it must come true, right? Bees?: Perhaps not, but I can tell you what happened in games I didn't even play. So it's a little silly. But thanks Yeah I do like that about the show, it often gives people interactions with people they'd have never met otherwise. I think MS is a lot the same too, cuz there's all sorts of people with all sorts of life experiences, and I like the variety. And I'd say LSGs have certainly changed my life for the better. Made a lot of important friends this way. Ooo, that's an interesting thing to be passionate about. I'd be very interested in hearing more Yep, sounds like you are also passionate about STUFF Haha, yes, a superidol with your name on it. Sounds great. I think that's how it works, yeah. Maggie: I’m a little silly too! I will remember insignificant details from a game I played a very long time ago and whenever I mention it to someone they’ll be like “uh wot?” I get uhh... very into stigma related to mental health and addiction which is something I see all the time and sometimes it feels like I’m a small fish drowning in the ocean that is the fucked up world but I’ll keep on swimming, keep on swimming, just like Dory from Finding Nemo and you know, maybe if I make a small change somewhere in the world it’ll feel like I’ve achieved something and been a net positive and that would be nice. So yeah, that’s me and my life essentially, but I also like to indulge in other things like ranting about Italian food and playing LSGs and silly things like that And yes on that note, obviously gambling is not a good idea and I should not have done it. What a nice moral to take from the story that is this game. I also have no idea what’s going to happen here. People haven’t talked to me about the vote yet Bees?: I like your brand of silly Haha, same. "So you know how x made that public thread calling out y? wasn't that nuts?" "...what? they did what? How do you remember this stuff?" "...oh. I just do???" I think that's all very important, yes. That's incredibly admirable, wow. It's kinda my view on things too, I'll do what I can to leave wherever I've been a better place even a little, cuz even little things matter. Sometimes the little things are the biggest ones. Tell me about Italian food Haha, you learned your lesson now, huh? I didn't build a bot because I've never gambled and wasn't sure what was a smart strategy. Apparently I had the right idea. Me either! Nobody is talking any actual names. This feels like Shipwreck all over again. Maggie: There was one time where I randomly talked to someone way later and I said something like "I loved working with you in X!!!" and they responded all "um sorry who were you?". Crushed, bees, I was CRUSHED! At least pretend to remember, or quickly look up the game so that you can act like you knew all along. The little things are so important! The big things are so hard to change, and I've put a lot of thought into how one would do it. You'd need some kind of ridiculous amount of influence or something! But little things are achievable and make a difference! Also I would warn you not to get me started on Italian food but you already have so here we go! I have this inherent bias against white pasta sauces or any pasta sauce with cream even though everyone seems to love it. I just can't do it. I've tried but it just doesn't work for me and I don't know why. I also don't like pepperoni pizza. What interests you about space? (also there's a game and a vote but I don't really know what's happening with that yet) Bees?: Oh, I hate that. That one is the worst. It's like "it's fine, it only meant everything to me, it's cool." Yes, but if you start with some of the little things, the big things become smaller. That's what I think anyways. Uh oh, Maggie, I don't think you're the perfect girl for me anymore. I prefer cream sauces, I find the acidity of tomato sauces too overpowering a lot of the time. Pepperoni pizza I feel like I can give a pass on. EVERYTHING. It's kinda the one last thing we're still discovering new shit, or confirming shit with. Like it was only recently that we confirmed that Gold is made from exploding stars. It was always a theory, but never confirmed. And that kind of shit I find amazing. I suppose there's also the Ocean, but I think space fascinates me slightly more because it takes so long to actually confirm or find anything out for sure. And the patience it takes to do that and how many people end up involved in the process to prove or disprove anything space related I find amazing. Well, I don't really know what's going on with the vote currently. It's a wee bit muddled and I don't know what names are even around. Maggie: Well now I've heard all sorts of things. With Dark Rey being some kind of celebrity! People saying Dark Rey was going after Dave. People saying she wasn't. People wanting Dark Rey gone, people not wanting Dark Rey gone. It's like there's no one else in the game! I've also recently been thinking "why not Ranger?" because they're who I hear the least from, but I don't know how viable that is. Bees?: Yep, I've heard that since I PMed you too. It sounds like Rey said something that somebody else took to mean that she was pushing for Dave, which she wasn't. That's how I understand what happened. Playing Telephone and there was somebody who really messed up the chain. Miss Maggie, we are of one mind yet again. That's exactly where I'm at. I haven't heard anything from him, or about him. So far I think people who wouldn't be against Ranger would be you and I, T/H was asking where Ranger was but wasn't sure about viability either, Dave would be for Ranger, Rey too. I can't think of anybody who would really fight it, do you? It's my preferred vote this round anyways. Maggie: I think it might be happening! Bees?: I think so too. That's all I've been hearing anyways. Maggie: Also the acidity of tomato sauces is beautiful ughhh. I don't know I think I'm very Southern Italian in my tastes and anything else is just "what do you mean this is Italian? How can it be Italian if it's not the colour red???" And I didn't even know that gold is made of exploding stars! I have learnt something new today. I guess when it comes to the ocean it's a very finite thing because there's only so much ocean but space just keeps going and going and going..... Anyway, I'm so glad that the Ranger vote worked out! I suspect that you and I were thinking the whole time that was what we wanted but only really made anything happen towards the end there but gosh it was beautiful how everyone suddenly was okay with it. Bees?: No no, I don't mean tomato acidity is bad. I do like it sometimes, it's just other times it is too much. It's a bit hit or miss. But how do you feel about pesto? Well it's one of the things made, yeah! There was a really cool article about it when they finally saw it. Yep, exactly. Ocean is cool, but SPACE :heart_eyes: As am I. Near the end of the round it was incredibly quiet where I heard basically nothing from nobody, and got trolled by Spotify playing Blindside by Icon For Hire, but it worked fine. It was really cool how suddenly everyone seemed to be fine with it, yeah.
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Jury
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 10, 2021 20:19:47 GMT
Dave Dave: ...BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES?! I think we ended up learning far more than either of us could have ever imagined. I had no idea those vote nullifiers were out there, and I still don't know where the Ranger and Bonobo votes came from. I didn't expect us to merge after only one round so I haven't replenished my bee memes yet. I did find this a few days ago and save it for you though: Bees?: DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE!!! Yeah, we sure learned a fuckton. Oh, I knew advantages existed during returnee roulette, but Cleric seemed to think they had all be used the last round. So Monk having them was a surprise. I have a theory about the Ranger vote! I think he self-voted by forgetting to submit anything. He seemed incredibly on the fence, and not voting means he doesn't have to choose anything, right? The Bonobo votes were Monk panicking in order to get a counter vote in case of an idol. I am unsure who he got to vote with him, could have been Bard or Rey. But I was expecting you to have the spiciest of all rounds, but what I'm hearing it sounds like it was a snooze, which everyone needed. I didn't either. I always love your bee memes, or beemes as I've been calling them as of five seconds ago. Aww, thank you for saving it, I love it <3 It's always nice to hear that you've been thought about when you weren't actively around somebody. And today I've been out of sorts, so hearing that was especially nice. Dave: Yeah, I thought they had expired too. I'm not sure about Ranger self-voting; I told him that the reason we didn't talk much that round was because Monk had implied there was no way Ranger would vote him out, and Ranger agreed that I would have been wasting my time trying to get him as a number to save Cleric. I wouldn't say it was a snooze per se, although it ended that way. At the start I think people were like "It's Dave or Monk, right?" and the first impression was that I would have lost that battle. But then I pointed out that Monk basically went AWOL and wasn't going to be reliable and it ended up being 5-1. Sorry to hear you've been having a rough day. Mine has been extremely lazy minus fixing a toilet this morning. That let me justify being lazy for the Super Bowl for the rest of the day. Bees?: Apparently not! Ah, interesting. Mind you it was just a theory cuz nobody said anything about voting elsewhere. I did talk to Ranger a fair bit about what I thought about both people after I had actually gotten him to stop *just* rping. Did anyone say you were actually in danger or just a feeling you had? But yeah no, Monk going I kind of thought was going to be what happened, wasn't sure how it was going to happen, but something with all the craziness was going to lead to that. Some days just feel bleh, today is much better alright, the sun is shining! Lol, that's fair. It sounded like a lot of people enjoyed a lot of Superb Owls. I was not one of them. Dave: Wait, you were able to have a game conversation with Ranger and get him to not RP? What is your secret? Should I start double-fisting buttercups of nectar to learn your magic? I’ll do it; people eat roses all the time so this shouldn’t be any different. My understanding is that Ranger and Monk started TC by telling people “It’s Dave Thomas, Founder of Wendy’s, right? No need to discuss it because it’s Dave Thomas, Founder of Wendy’s.” Then others told me what was going on and I said “What if it WASN’T Dave Thomas, Founder of Wendy’s?” and then the Monk vote slid into place. So was that real danger? Maybe but probably not a ton of danger. I wish the sun was shining here. It was supposed to snow but instead it’s just cold and gross. I’m wearing wool for the first time in I don’t even know how long and I hate it. Bees?: Haha, he made a joke, but referenced the wrong thing and I pointed it out. And he broke RP long enough to say he meant the thing I brought up, and I ran with it. It was a gradual sort of thing and just *happened*. So I guess the trick is, hope he fucks up? But also eat more roses and violets, they're just nice. Ah, that's "fun". Ngl, I laughed really hard at "What if it WASN'T Dave Thomas, Founder of Wendy's?". It does feel like it wasn't exactly danger, just the whisper of it. At least it wasn't spicy. Oh it's still real fucking cold, that hasn't stopped. The sun is just showing all the snow we've had for days. Wool is horrible, are you going to be okay dude? Dave: Well, I thought about doing the exact same thing Nope Bot did and now I'm really kicking myself. I look forward to seeing a swarm of bees rolling into the auction like an eccentric billionaire next round. So with nobody immune we have a lot of options. I haven't heard any names yet but at the same time nobody seems to have been infected with Big Move fever yet. How did you and T/H fare on the other tribe? Do you have a sense on who would have gone if the challenge had gone the other way? Bees?: Haha, sorry man. It wasn't out of the strategy of keeping the coins really, just that I hate bot challenges and I've never played blackjack where I had to actually bet, so I had no idea what a good strategy was or where to start. Bot challenges always make me feel stupid, cuz I don't understand what is even good at all, it just all looks bad, and needlessly complicated. Haha, just call us Scrooge McBee. True enough, we could do anything. I haven't heard fuckall. I think people are still burnt out and hesitant. T/H and I did rather well, like I don't think we were in a position that we would have been in trouble if TC happened. There wasn't like an actual plan there, I had the impression it was always going to be a let's see how it plays out. I'm purely guessing it could have gone Rey as the least connected easy vote. Speaking of T/H though, Hare brought up wondering if you are alright cuz they hadn't heard from you in a while and wasn't sure what was up. But they also mentioned that they hadn't heard from Ranger, neither have I, though he did post something saying he wasn't going to be around but *shrugs* Dave: Ah, I literally just sent an apology PM. Life really has been busy as hell. My whole strategy was to buy insurance because I assumed the mods would give the dealer at least one "Fuck you!" blackjack and I was pretty sure nobody else would buy insurance. Oops. Part of me doesnt' want to vote Rey out because then that's three Hole People in a row but I don't feel strongly enough to stand up like I did for Cleric. I do think with Monk gone she's looking for allies. Bees?: It's all good. I was pretty sure it was just that, and told him that. Oof. I didn't even read that portion of the rules. I noped out minutes after the challenge was posted. That's kinda where I'm at too. Like, that just feels bad to do all 3 who made it out in a row, but like, this isn't one I actually made any kind of connection with, so *heavy shrugs* But she probably absolutely is. It's not impossible she finds some? I don't know. Dave: I feel like if I had started on the same tribe as Dark Rey we probably could be really good friends? As it stands though I think she's mad at me. The very first PM I got after the merge was pretty much "So Monk went. Hope I'm not seeing a pattern..." with absolutely nothing else. Bees?: Yeah probably. I don't know that she made it in good with anybody on Star Wars though. Oh dude no, she's not mad at you. That's just how she talks. It's actual genuine concern about her position. It reads as hella passive-aggressive, but she means it on a face value level. It's been incredibly jarring, but I kinda figured out that's just how she is. She's also queen of one-line PMs. Dave: Speaking of Rey, she came to me and said that there was a rumor she was pushing me but it wasn’t true. I hadn’t actually heard the rumor yet! Because she came preemptively I’m inclined to believe her, but have you heard anything either way? Bees?: Okay hi, so far my PMs contain a lot of Not Dark Rey, more than they contain, yeah lets boot her. But I did have somebody say they'd heard you as a possibility, but not where from. Which this feels a lot like the Grogu round if I'm being honest, where there's a rumor going around that someone is saying a name which they themselves are very confused because they didn't say it and hearing that people think they're saying it is really weird. I've also not heard anything from Ranger this round, have you? I'm going to get back to people more now and see what is actually happening, but it's all whispers and nebulous "did you hear this? I'm hearing this?" Dave: I haven’t heard from Ranger in a few days. I have no idea where that guys head is at. If you don’t mind me asking, who said they heard my name was out there? Bees?: Nobody has it seems like. I kinda, wanna do that if I'm being honest. Not like just cuz he's not here, but like, it feels like it actually does something new? Avocado mentioned it, which is why it feels like the Grogu round. T/H said that they'd heard a lot of Not Rey. Mind you, I only had like 5 PMs from this morning, so I am way behind on the current goings on. Let me catch up on PMs with other people and see what else I hear, yeah? Dave: Sounds good. For the record I don’t oppose a Ranger vote if that’s where people are. Oh and the Avocado thing tracks with what I’ve heard; he came to me telling me that too. Bees?: I mean I don't know if that's where people are at, but man, this feels like a clusterfuck it doesn't have to be, all with a lot of the players of that maroon round that felt like a clusterfuck that didn't have to be. So I'm a little extra sus about this all. I think this boils down to people not wanting to vote Rey out as she's an idol shard holder, and not giving more power to anybody else who owns one. I think it's 100% that more than it is Rey as a person. But what do I know? Dave: As far as I can tell people have moved on to Ranger. Hopefully no more wackiness happens. Bees?: That's what I've heard too, that there's enough of a consensus there and Ranger hasn't given any reason for anybody to vote anywhere else. It also sounds like the whole thing with you was just Rey trying to clear up what happened in the Monk TC, and people taking those questions to mean that she was wanting to push you after that. Which I guess is a common mistake but also, oof. Dave: Well, I have to admit that I'm excited the auction is using dollars and not blackjack coins. This also makes the penny that Darth Plagueis won on exile that much funnier of a prize. I have no idea what I'm going to bid on yet, although based on the aggressive disdain for players the mods have marinated every aspect of the flavor in I'm tempted to look for whichever box looks the crappiest. Bees?: Lol, I was pretty sure there would be base money given one way or another. Cuz that's incredibly overpowered if not. It actually is funnier, cuz I've been wondering what the hell the pennies were for. I'm not sure yet either. Man, your burns are particularly savage, although appropriate. Dave: Oh I figured we'd get base cash but I was thinking more "Here's 10 cents" instead of "Here's the REAL money and you all have the same amount." Can you imagine if we didn't get any more money? "Lost the last challenge? Fuck you, you automatically lose this next one! Don't like it? Get good at blackjack." Bees?: Oh haha, I mean yeah that's fair. I guess they were expecting people to win big in blackjack, so they could win more ties or whatever. Idk, we'll have to see what happens. God, that would have been an outrage. Like, I'd have legitimately had several strong words for both the reviewers they had letting that pass. I already think some words need had cuz what the fuck.
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 10, 2021 20:41:13 GMT
T/H Hare: Aye, we have! I'm rapidly reaching my mental capacity/bedtime for the night. Times well with finishing the inbox soon. Soon. But before I do: happy we merged, happy dave survived that tribe where monk went out, he seemed a bit startled, happy that we don't have to go to TC on the small tribe, happy and sleepy in geneeral. ::: ) Bees?: I feel you on that, I had a similar problem. I just crashed incredibly early. Yeah, I am too. That could have gone all weird, it sounds like it didn't. Not going to TC on that tribe is ideal, I don't know how that would have shaken out, but now we don't have to find out! I hope you enjoyed your sleep, bunny friend <3 Tortoise: Seems like the other tribe had a pretty uneventful Tribal, I wonder how uneventful this first merge vote is going to be. Probably not as much? Heh. We've been hit by snow pretty hard the past 48 hours, it's pretty insane. Good thing I can enjoy a hot beverage while being indoors. How has your day been? Bees?: Yeah it seems like it was ez pz. It might be uneventful though, depending on what people want to do. Since so many people are super hesitant this game, it might carry over. cuz like, we don't even know if we're done with returnees and I feel like people are being careful with their choices in light of that. We've had a lot of snow lately too, but not like crazy amounts. It's pretty typical for this time of year. What's your hot beverage of choice? Today was a lot better than yesterday overall. Sun was out, actually got shit done, it was nice. Hare: Having the sun out is a good productivity boost to any day, I find. When I like to drink a hot beverage, it is, hmmm, the default tea they serve you in cheap sit-down chinese restaurants (which sometimes violate health regulations, sometimes but not always) where all the food items are like 33% cheaper than you would see elsewhere. Actually peppermint tea, I think peppermint tea is better. Is Dave ok? He hasn't messaged me in um... 23 hours. Also ranger, but ranger posted a thing in the thread saying they were gone. Bees?: Yes I agree. It's always helpful. Oo, that is pretty decent tea. But the food's better, no? Peppermint tea is nice. I just like tea really. I haven't heard from Dave much either, but I think just busy or something, I'm not sure. I haven't talked to ranger at all since merge has started. I didn't PM him yet, but like, nothing from him either. Hare: Well it depends on what you order. The food is targeted towards mostly Chinese immigrants, so you get some side dishes which are like "wait, these are literally frozen vegetables from the grocery store. I make this on a weekly basis" "and this is just spaghetti. how is this a side dish." But if you moved here from China, it's western food that is new and exotic and worth ordering at a restaurant. So actually you have to order the other dishes that you don't know what they are and then you will have a good time with long noodles that are from the section of the grocery store that you aren't familiar with, and sauces you don't know how to make. And of course, they give you tons of food. way more than any other resturant. Tons of food per dollar. ... I think this is going to be a slow TC again, it's going to take people until at least tomorrow to stop saying "No messages from dave and ranger??" and start talking about what's actually going to happen. Until then I will hold fantasy about that delicious green oniony sauce i don't know how to make with chicken breasts. Bees?: True. I don't mind if it's stuff I could just buy on my own though? Like, having people put it all together in interesting ways is what I'm there for. So I don't mind really. I agree, I think everybody has asked or commented about the lack of any name or any plan, so I expect this to be much the same. I did get a message from Dave since I PMed you last, so he's probably making his way to you. Got nothing from Ranger yet. I'm not saying that's a solid option, but I'm not not saying that either. I'm mostly up for a lot of things really. Hare: Yep. Dave came back, and we've wasted no time hitting him a hot & fresh hamburger pun. Now the walrus is in Ranger's court. Will he come back before it's too late? How exciting! ... the number of activity boots in this game is actually off the charts, like this feels way above average or is it just me? like we are at merge for goodness sake Bees?: Beautiful, it sounds like it's all as it should be. I don't even know. We'll have to see. It really is, I'm not into it. But also, this was a game that had a difficult time filling in the first place, so I'm less surprised than I am for a game that would have had to cut a lot of people, ya know? We are at merge, but we've also kept bringing the activity boots back. Hare: Yeah, a bit of a shame - this format would have been really intense in the hole with active players. like look at it even with lower activity players, the end got really intense with cera/cleric VS. the other two. or was it the other way around, I don't remember. So far I have heard Not Dark Rey. Which is weird because I never heard Dark Rey in the first place. But okay. Maybe dark rey should suggest something then if it's not her. Bees?: True enough, it could have been exciting, but it doesn't seem to be. I don't even remember how it went, I think it was cleric and cera though? This seems like a mess. Cuz I have heard Rey, I also heard Dave? Like Avo said something about it being Dave vs Rey, with the implication that Dave was coming from Rey, but Rey hasn't pushed anybody, so I'm a little confused. And still nobody knows what's up with Ranger. This feels like that worst round all over again, except I don't think any of this is coming from Grogu, it feels like it's coming from the Avo/Droids corner. If it were up to me, I'd rather go Ranger. He's not here for one, but for two, I think he has some connections that I feel like him moving actually clears up some of the lines. I think people don't want Rey to go because of the idol shard and they don't want to make anybody else who has one more powerful. I don't think it's about her specifically, or about isn't it mean if we just vote out all the returnees? Idk man. Tortoise: I've also heard of the Dave vs Rey thing now. Not from either of Dave/Rey though, so not sure what's going on here. I've also not really been on today, so I may be a bit out of the loop here too, lol. As far as Ranger goes, I think that would be a pretty good choice, I'm just not sure there's going to be a lot of traction there? No clue where this is headed tbh, but this feels like it's going to be one of the Returnees then? idk... Bees?: Hey that's fine, I'm just catching up myself and trying to sort it all. I haven't heard of the Dave/Rey thing from Rey yet, so idk man. What opposition do you think there will be? I guess I'm coming at this from the state of like looking at the options that people have brought up. Rey going changes nothing except sending out an idol shard. Dave going changes everything and I don't know that anybody is feeling bigmoveitis enough to do it and be willing to cope with the fallout, also Dave as the alternate target to a vote just happened with the Monk vote so it feels like Rey being scapegoated which I hates. Ranger feels like there's not much fall out and it does at least do something slightly different. It doesn't feel so stagnant anyways. Hare: I'm baaack! Judging by the contents of the tribe thread, I don't think the Dave wagon was ever real. But it seems like the ranger wagon has picked up a significant amount of steam and formed while we were away. I mean, he almost came back from being afk... but not quite. So I'm not surprised this is gaining traction. Is that what you're hearing too? Bees?: I don't think it was either, just assumed to be real by a miscommunication. And yep, yep it has. He hasn't talked to anybody and there were at least 3 of us that were like, so Ranger huh? Could we do this? Yep, it's the only actual target I'm hearing. I'm not hearing arguments against really either, so *shrugs*. Hare: W-what? No one is defending the afk? Bees, I'm shocked. Oh wait, I just got a message from ranger. Apparently the vote is back on dark rey, that's what I'm hearing from him, so.... Bees?: I know, like, I am SURPRISED by this turn of events. I never expected that, no sir. You actually got a message from Ranger? Wow. I haven't' gotten a message from Ranger Hare: And you never will. This is so sad, Alexa, play fortnite. Ranger said to me they were a target because of their apathy again "lol". yeah i get it, this game had trouble filling i get it man, i see it, i understand it sleepy emoji Bees?: Hahaha. Alexa would probably be better at Fortnite than I am. I mean, that's not incorrect. But like, come on man. Some of us are also apathetic, but we're putting in the work my dude. Ah well. Hare: I mean, it's been a while for me but aren't games usually more like, lively than this? What's the complete list of non-activity boots at this point? Does it outnumber the activity boots yet? Do people still play games? - Lindsay - Cleric (monk was more inactive) - Zero III - Snow Lepp Bees?: Oh quite typically they are, you're not wrong. It does not outnumber the activity boots yet. I've heard they do, but alas, I don't think I've seen it. But no like, it's all activity boots to date. I think the amount of newbies we seem to have is also playing a part in this? But like, idk man. It feels weird. Hare: Yes, and I think also that this game had trouble filling. Earlier this morning I learned that Billy Joel - Piano Man is a good song for 3 am. It's a good alternative to the vocaloid anime cat song I've been using, and as a bonus, it's also possible to enjoy if your brain is functioning normally. Is Dave doing okay? I wish he would come on more. I feel like we had something so ready to go with him on the red tribe and then he's just gone and flaked on me. It's just that he's busy, right? Bees?: Yep, it did, so that doesn't particularly help. Wait, I'm sorry, why do you have a song that is good for 3 am? Are you okay, Hare? Do you need to talk? Your guess is as good as mine. I don't hear all that much from him either. We really did, yeah, and I think he's kinda flaked a bit on everybody. If it's anything else, I don't know about it. He's not really someone I'm particularly close to these days. Grogu Grogu: Some shorts are comfy. Some shorts are not. GYM shorts, sweatshorts, those are comfy as hell. Rigid khakis or denim shorts or something? I did celebrate the Superb Owl today, yes. Even though I hate both of those teams in it. I mostly watch it for the commercials. Which are always hilarious. I mostly root for the teams near where I grew up because I have memories of my dad taking me to games. And his dad took him and... yeah, it's probably something about family ties I guess? Would it surprise you if I had a room decorated very similar to the Bud Hole growing up? XD Bees?: Haha, I honestly haven't thought much about shorts to that degree. I don't tend to wear them actually. It's for a very silly reason. But, I don't particularly like my thighs touching each other as I'm walking. So shorts are nope. I don't get that, I just don't understand team devotion. I get finding some of the feats one guy performs or even a whole team does, but I don't quite get viewing them as the most best over all others, that just seems nonsensical to me. Can't you enjoy a lot? Or like enjoy what one guy does, even if the team he's on doesn't let him do those things super often? Idk, i think I'm just weird, and i realize I said a similar thing in my last PM, but I've already typed it, not untyping now. Aww, that's really cute. I'm glad you've had that Haha, no, it really wouldn't. Mine was never quite like that. I did have a map of Mars on my wall though. Yes, as in the planet. I really like space. Grogu: Ahaha, that's not a silly reason at all. I tend to wear baggier, longer shorts. Basketball shorts and the like. I look like a bum in public, but eh, who cares, we're in a pandemic ffs. Honestly, I sorta just grew up supporting certain teams because my family did and it became like a tribalism feeling I guess. It helps to have something to root for in order to feel emotion behind the sport I guess. If I was watching it purely for like athleticism or with a clinical eye, I don't think I'd like it. I do also play fantasy sports with some friends, so that helps too, because then you have a vested interest to root for specific players to do well. Space huh? I wanted to be an astronaut growing up. Then my parents showed me the movie Apollo 13 when I was like, 8 years old. I did not want to be an astronaut after watching that horror show XD I shifted to meteorology as well. I'm fascinated by weather, and especially the destructive power of it. When it's hurricane season I'm glued to weather cams watching the winds roll in. Or like, tornadoes are awe-inspiring for me. Bees?: I think it's silly, but okay I don't mind pants that end like just shy of my knee, i just don't like anything shorter. You still go out in public? Wow. Impressive. I rarely went out pre-pandemic, I go out even less now. Ah, okay, that makes sense. I don't really have that. I also moved a fair bit growing up, so I don't have a strong connection to places either. Weirdly I understand fantasy sports much better for the reason you mentioned. Like you have some sort of investment, I get it. Makes sense to me. Yes! Space! Haha, I had a similar thing actually. I wanted to be a marine biologist when I was a kid, and then I started learning biology and I realized I hated it. Meteorology is really cool! I like to go stand out in the rain when it's warm enough, and I love storms. I also really find rare natural disasters fascinating, like limnic eruptions. Are you familiar? Grogu: I go out in public to go shopping and stuff. For essentials! My parents don't go to the store because, you know... they're old. So I'm running their groceries for them, which means I'm going out once every week or two for them so they don't get exposed. Been this way for nearly a year now. I think I'm going insane. Marine biologist is such a specific dream job. Biology and chemistry were the classes I failed consistently in high school because science just doesn't click with my big dumb brain very well. I've never heard of limnic eruptions! FASCINATE ME. Bees?: Ah okay, that makes sense. I uh, don't. Other people in my household do the shopping cuz I'm a wimp. That makes sense that you would do that, and good on you for taking care of your parents. I can't believe it's been a whole fucking year almost, like that's crazy. I hates it, can we fix it? Haha, so, we saw this movie in science class that was all about marine biogists, and I also really liked dolphins and whales. That's all it really was. I passed biology and chemistry, I just hated biology. Chemistry was like math, but I understood it. I bet you're not that dumb <3 Oh! Well! So it's a phenomenon that has only been documented like 3 times ever? Essentially what happens is, carbon dioxide gets stuck at the bottom of a lake, right? Usually due to volcanic activity or whatever. But what happens next is it sits there for ages and ages until something causes it to explode, and it causes fog kinda which you know, being water saturated carbon dioxide, kills most living things within a certain radius when it happens. The only way to really prevent it is to try to degass the lakes, which you have to be very careful about doing else you could cause the eruption. And that's my favourite natural disaster phenomenon. Grogu: LOL. That's fine. I'm young, and healthy, and don't have much to fear if I get it. I'm mostly not going out with friends because I don't want to catch it and not know and get my parents sick somehow. It turns out, WE CAN FIX IT! Yes we can! We just... have to wait for a vaccine. Or something. I was told by the New York Times I'm like 800,000th in line in my state or something? So yep, I've got some time to wait. I'm good with math! Like, I enjoyed math in school, was always in the advanced courses. But damn, the science half of "science and math" just screwed me up. For me, math felt like a fun puzzle to do. I was a huge nerd I guess lol. WHOA. Holy shit. So like, if it's a gas, then is it really even an "eruption" or whatever? I mean, can you SEE it erupt? Or is it invisible? (Also hey, we're at TC, we should probably like, talk about that or something, if you wanted to take some time off from the chatting and talk game.) Bees?: Yeah that's fair. All makes sense. Yes, yes we can. [insert Bob the Builder song here]. Oh I have no idea when I'm likely to be good for it. It might be soon though as I have existing things. I am not good with math! I am horrible with math. I think I learned some stuff in a weird way and never saw the point in having to unlearn later steps just to learn them again later. I like puzzles, but like with visuals. It's a gas cloud, I have no idea if it's visible or not. It's really only happened in like 2 lakes in Africa, and they're concerned about a third. All in Cameroon. There's a possible tar pit that this happened in ages ago in Greece I think. But circumstances are rare as shit. First one was in 1984, second in 1986. So it's also a NEW phenomenon. Yes, we should. What if we do both? The reason I say do both is, nobody has talked game at all yet. And I feel like this round is going to be yet another one of those everybody waits for someone else to name a name, and we try not to step on any toes. Since we don't know if returnees are done, and if people are going to be jury or not yet. And we had a single round in other tribes, and the person who left was one who could have left the round before, so nothing dynamically changed either. That's my read on the situation anyways. What are your thoughts? Grogu: Nice! If you get a vaccine consider yourself lucky, I would like, pay actual lots of dollars for one tbh so I can go back to my normal life. Well "normal" life, I don't even fuckin know what that means anymore. Dude, weird. Why all in Africa? Must have something to do with the earth there I guess? You'd think if it happens there it could happen anywhere. I also wonder like, clearly it happened before then right? It didn't just randomly start happening in 84, so like, it had to have happened SOMETIME in Earth's history!? We just didn't record it. Wasn't there some settler colony that disappeared when they landed in America and nobody could ever find them? Like shit maybe that's from the gas too. Hey I'm down to do both. Nobody wants to name a name. FWIW, apparently T/H is worried they could be targeted, which I am definitely not vibing with here. Bard told me that, and that it seems like Avo doesn't want Rey here, though IDK why and Avo told me they wanted to sit back and not push much of anything so idk what's going on there? Gun to my head, maybe it has to do with her having an idol piece or something. IDK. That's about it right now? Bees?: I'm gonna skip our casual chatting for now, cuz I wanna talk about this current round and figure out what's going on. So I woke up to a couple PMs this morning which, dude it feels like the round you went home all over again but with different players. Dave said that he got a PM from Rey that was her saying that she wasn't pushing him as a countervote so if he had heard that, it wasn't the case. Avocado mentioned to me that he'd heard Rey and Dave as the counter wagons currently. Now I haven't gotten a lot of PMs from a lot of people about the actual vote yet, so I'm woefully behind. T/H told me that all he's been hearing currently is Not Rey. So I think you might be right about it being due to the idol piece. I'm still catching up and PMing people to figure what's up, but like, weirdly, I think I trust you most right now? Grogu: DUDE I had the same feeling, it's like everyone is talking shit or misinterpreting shit. Alright so here's where I'm at, good lord. I'm trying to make heads or tails of what's going on. I'm sorry if I leave anything out here, but okay. So Droids said that Rey was floating Dave's name to her, which I said seemed really weird bc I didn't think Rey would target Dave since Maggie likes Dave and I think Maggie/Rey are a thing? Meanwhile Bard is saying Avocado wants to target Rey but doesn't want to be seen doing it, so like, cool I guess? I'm telling you all this kinda hoping you don't spread it since I don't want to be the gossipy one but more because I'm trying to make heads or tails of it too and you seem like you're putting on your thinking cap with me. So then I ask Rey about the push on Dave and why she wants to target him, she says no she doesn't want to target Dave, she never wanted to target Dave. So I'm like "uhhh alright that's fine then no big deal". Bonobo said he heard that Rey is mad that's getting passed around, so I have zero clue what happened between Rey/Droids to lead to Droids saying that to me but I'm not the only person who has heard "Rey wanted to target Dave" at this point, so it's coming from *somewhere*. Basically everyone I've spoken to except Droids has been very firm about it not being Rey. I think people don't wanna give the other idol piece holders any more power by eliminating a piece from the game or whatever. So they're looking for alternatives. I don't really know who to trust. I don't know who is feeding me soft lies and who is saying true words. So like, if you wanna make a preemptive agreement rn to trust each other and talk through what we're hearing, I'm down. I'm just saying... every TC when it seems like there's a clusterfuck of confusion and chaos about who said what and when they said it and why they said it, it seems to very specifically involve the same common denominators. My vote, and this round. Bees?: 1000% yes, I want to talk this out and agree to trust each other about this round. It's funny, last night Droids was telling me that they were pretty sure that Maggie and Rey were kinda close. Dave also said that Avocado told them the same thing about it being him or Rey, at least I think that's what Dave is telling me. Avo wanting to avoid any heat for targeting anybody completely tracks with him telling me that he very much is somebody who wants to avoid conflict and make a decision which could piss people off. I'm not gonna say anything about that to anybody. And yes, I would like to put our brains together and figure out the fuck even. Rey did say she didn't want to push anything or start anything because she doesn't have hardly any information where it's smart for her to do anything. And she did ask me who I thought the threats of the game where, cuz I think she's just trying to find her place with everything and not just be revolving doored out of the game. Nobody has been super firm about it not being Rey to me, just more of "eh, that feels bad, but if there's nothing else, I guess?" so maybe since last night people went and found a something else. I think you're right about the idol piece though. That sounds pretty on point. Oh, I had noticed that, indeed I had. I will say I've only found that to be weird when Avo's here, not Droids on their own. Just saying. Also, Dave was a target last round at their TC a little. And it seemed like Monk just assumed the target was going to be Dave, that it was agreed upon. I think what's going on is certain people very much want to target Dave and want to come up with any reason why it's a valid reason to do so. Dave is one of the best challengers, also charming, that kinda shit. But nobody wants to say that's the reason they're doing it, so why not pin it on someone like Rey, right? Also, I know there was worry about Maggie because she was connected to Dave. They got split up in tribes on purpose cuz of that worry. I also had a nice little note from Avo in our PM where he mentioned he hadn't heard much about me positively or negatively, but what he had heard was there were some people who didn't know where my loyalties were or anything. And I'm like, okay which people, and have they considered asking me? Hmmmm. And it is sorta fair, as I'm trying to make heads or tails of who is connected to who and why. Grogu: Yeah, I heard Mags/Rey were close going into our last tribe. So Dave heard from Avo "It's Dave or Rey" is what you're saying? Sorry, pronouns are confusing in that sentence. Dave isn't talking to me at all and I'm wishing he would send me SOMETHING here so I can figure out what the hell is going on. If he's actually in danger, I can't do much to help him if he won't speak to me you know? Ranger hasn't spoken to me at all since merge? Like, nothing, zero, absolutely nothing. I don't know if he's talking to anybody else, but that's frustrating to me. Interesting -- I heard from Droids directly about Rey, and Rey was like, no that's not the case. So if Avocado is involved in that mix up, I'd be kinda surprised? That being said, I definitely do feel like a lot of misinformation tends to come around when Avocado is around, and like, I dunno. They always give me the vibe of being straight up and honest and chill but then they are giving that vibe to everyone so who knows? If people want to target Dave, they're going to just have to do it. Droids is like "Dave is a big challenge threat, so I want to keep him around so people won't target me first". Which is probably ok, I've heard Droids mentioned that way. But the way it is breaking down... - Avocado mentions to *someone* (I think Bard or Droids) that they want to target Rey this round - Droids says Rey came to them wanting to target Dave. Droids says they don't wanna do that because Dave is a shield for them, basically - Rey denies all of this and says she never wanted to target Dave and doesn't know where that's coming from and apparently wants to clear things up with Dave Now we're in a situation where Dave/Rey are the two names going around and it's all completely bc people said Rey said something she didn't, so there's a "push on Dave" from Rey that doesn't really exist, and then there's the counterpush/backlash on Rey for pushing Dave, which is undeserved for something she didn't do? Rey seems kinda pissed at Avocado's general direction in her PMs with me, for whatever that's worth. I don't know if that's a move you'd be open to making this round or whatever, but it wouldn't surprise me if the option is on the table for now. Avo has also been telling me he hasn't heard anything about me but that this was my round to "prove my trust" to Avocado or whatever. Which is fine, we haven't had our trust tested, but I sorta feel like... dude you're the one who voted me out lol, my trust is and has been fine! Bard has been gone and is likely gonna walk back in here shortly and start whipping votes for what he actually wants to happen, which might be nice. People trying to split up Maggie/Rey kinda makes me nervous? That's just two people. We have some trios sitting around or people with way more connections/power than Maggie and fucking Rey. I also just hate the idea of revolving door-ing Rey right after Monk/Cleric. Kinda makes me nervous for my own position in the game if I'm the last standing person from Exile. Bees?: Yes, Dave said he heard it from Avocado. Also from Rey coming to him. Sorry, sometimes I'm confusing! Yeah, I understand, Dave did say he was working though and being slow. Maybe you'll hear something soon? That's my Ranger experience too. I've heard fuckall, though Avo said he had a PM. Which :thinking: That is exactly my read of Avo. To my face he's always chill and very honest, and yet I just think very hard in that direction. I hadn't heard from Droids yet today. Honestly, Droids wanting to keep Dave around makes sense. Avo also told me he's not interested in a Dave vote right now. Like, he doesn't seem to want there to be too much fallout from whatever happens this round as there are still so many people to PM. That part I believe. That tracks, yeah. Which, gross, is a lot how our round went. It just went horribly. Let's not do a recap? I haven't heard anything from Rey today aside from the one PM earlier. I don't blame Rey for being pissed, having people say you're saying things that you're not sucks(sorry). That feels like a big move and one which would get a lot of pushback. As it is, the main discussion topics seem to be which returnee should go home, which is also gross. Uh, okay? That's really weird. I did hear your name from Bonobo in the grouping of let's talk about returnees, but not as a vote anybody is pushing, so that might be why Avo came to you with that? Just in case you hear that your name is being discussed, that he didn't put it out there. Bard clearing shit up seems to be like his job a little. I think the worry was Dave/Maggie, and anybody else they could scoop up. And I don't know why that's really a worry. And I agree, I think looking there is foolish. I also hate that too. Which is why what I really want is Ranger. T/H said that they are also hearing the Dave/Rey stuff, but are unsure what will happen. Tortoise did say that they thought Ranger wouldn't get much traction, but haven't explained why they think that. So we'll see what else we learn here. Grogu: Ranger seems content to just be a goat for Avocado and Bard, I guess, which is like... a game you can play if you want. Bard/Avo were talking to me about how Ranger was distant/disconnected/disappointing/etc prior to the tribe split and now it just seems like they're back in business? In any case, yeah, Avocado always seems like he wants to "bro out" and talk game but like, I dunno, other people have mentioned the same vibe they get from him but that they don't trust him, and I think I'm kinda on that line? My only real TC experiences with the guy so far are... he voted me out after ghosting me all of TC, he ghosted me again during all of the shipwreck, and now we're here where he's talking about testing trust or something. I don't have much of a track record there yet. Maggie just mentioned Ranger to me as an option? Which like, I won't fight it if that's what happens I guess. I like Ranger alright but he just is NOT talking to me and there's no reason for me to fight to save that, esp if he's just gonna constantly be a vote for Bard/Avo to use however they want? What're your thoughts there? Bees?: You sure could play that game I suppose. I don't particularly like that game. That's very odd. But kinda tracks with what I was thinking in terms of who Ranger might have at all. It's just them, right? Yep, that's his whole brand. You've probably had the roughest go of it with him, yeah. He's an interesting conundrum. I got that too, yeah. Which is funny, cuz I've also been kinda shopping that around. And I think she came to that idea on her own. So, honestly? That's kind of what I prefer. I think it actually has an impact that isn't the same old shit all the time, right? And it doesn't blow up the game much either, and it doesn't leave it the same. He's not talking to anybody really. I also kind of hate pocketvotes and really like to vote them out >.> Grogu: I too have been low key shopping it around so it's nice we all kinda... landed there. Taking out Ranger should be noncontroversial because he hasn't spoken to anybody this round. And it should have an impact bc it would make sure the boring story of a trio running the whole game doesn't come to fruition. I'm down for that, and it's starting to sound like a lot of people are, too? Honestly? Might be the best vote this round. Bees?: Haha, ngl, I love that. A bunch of people just looking at the lay of the land and seeing what is being talked about and then checking their notes and being like, "but where's this guy fit? what if, we did this?". It's kinda funny, but I'm into it. Yep, exactly, he's not been here. And the only people who might want to fight for him, probably won't because that will out that they had a thing. So really, it's ideal, no? I do think that what seems to be the case is there are people who are worried that there won't be enough traction for the vote, cuz they're doing that whole "I wanna do this, but idk if anybody is on board with it." and you can count up the amount of people who are saying that and wouldn't you know it, those are the numbers for it, weird. I'll be honest, I stubbornly put my vote there a good hour ago with the hope it could actually happen and I wouldn't have to change my vote. Grogu: I mean, the fact Ranger doesn't fit into anybody's plans means one of two things: * He doesn't fit into anybody's plans and therefore should be working to be a number for people. * He's already a number for certain people and therefore doesn't feel the need to fit into other people's plans. My guess is... it's the latter of the two. I mean, I know I'm not "in anybody's plans" or whatever, but I'm at least active, I'm fluid, I'm taking the game one round at a time and reacting as things come my way, which hopefully at least lets people know I'm here to play ball if our interests align? I think we're at the tipping point where longer term plans will have to get made at some point. Hell, I'm sure there's already a few Final 3 deals floating around that I'm not privvy to or a part of, that's just how it is. But Ranger doesn't seem to be giving the appearance of caring much at all. I'm putting my vote there now. It sounds like... you, Maggie, me, Dave, and Rey are five for it? I assume that Bonobo will go with it too? I told Droids what's up and am waiting for a PM back but I can't see Droids having a good reason to block it. They did mention they were getting "nervous" about Dave "mobilizing his forces" and getting too much power, so like, maybe Droids is gonna swing back for a Dave vote here, I don't know. But it sounds like we're just one vote shy of it. I dunno where T/H stands rn. Bees?: I think it's the latter too. He's gotta be a part of people's plans from Chocolate, right? There's no reason he probably wouldn't be. I don't think you're not in anybody's plans either, you might be more of a piece people watch for a gauge of what's happening elsewhere which really isn't the same, but whatever. And yeah, like, you're definitely here to play, no doubt about that. I also agree, I think we're at a point where people are going to have to make long term plans, and well, in some way, that's kinda why I want this vote, cuz it's one that actually narrows options down. Ranger isn't part of my plans, and not having to plan around him sounds ideal. T/H had mentioned thinking it was fine if numbers, so probably would be down. Bonobo probably wouldn't be against it. Droids also asked me if I thought there would be numbers, which duh, yes? There's at least 5 for it, with a couple maybes putting it at 6 or 7. I don't think Droids would block it either. Droids sounds really anxious about Dave and has for a while. And I'm not sure why. Maybe they see Dave as their biggest competition, at least on a challenge front, and they're worried at some point Dave will try to take them out for that reason. But that doesn't quite sound like Dave's style, ya know? Grogu: Yeah, I'm playing a style of game called "What the fuck am I doing?" Wait, it's like that ancient meme. Because I'm just winging it, baby. I just heard from Rey, they are fine with Ranger as well. Bonobo wants Ranger but like, wants to engineer a vote split? And that seems hella risky to me because then we alienate a second person on top of Ranger, plus, we're just skating by. Me, you, Dave, Maggie, Rey, Bonobo is 6. I don't think Avo/Bard are gonna want to turn on Ranger, so like, that leaves us needing both Droids and T/H to go along with a vote split plan as well? It just feels too messy. Who is going to use an idol to save Ranger here? Is he that important? Bees?: Haha, honestly I feel that. This game has been weird in a way that I keep looking at my confessional like: I had heard from Rey but not Bonobo. Droids said they'd be fine with it, they just want an easy vote. They just hope that everybody is being honest. I'm really not into organizing a vote split, that sounds nutso. Don't bother with it. And yeah I think you're right that it would alienate an extra person and that's unnecessary. Avo/Bard might not want to, but we'll see. He might have an idol, cuz who the fuck knows where the prime idol is, but like, eh. I doubt anybody would use one to keep him. That's too ballsy for round one of merge. Grogu: LMAOOOO. My confessional is so dead. I don't know if it's this game or having taken time off from playing them for so long but like, I used to be a VERY prominent confessionalizer! I used my confessional multiple times a day to take detailed notes of everything. And this game like five days will go by and I'm just like, "Oh, hey, I should post something here". It's probably about the game itself though, the pacing is WEIRD. Bonobo JUST got back to me that they're fine, so yeah, you'll probably hear from them soon. Also okay, I don't want to spook you or anything, and I don't want to start drama. I cannot quote PMs at you, so I'm going to tell you as neutrally as possible that Droids is paranoid about Dave. Droids now thinks that you're "a number for Dave" long-term and is talking about how he didn't know you were so close to him until this round. I don't know where he's getting that, I guess because you're voting with Dave this round. So like, it's not a freak out thing, I think it's just... maybe do some work there to let him know you're still in his corner? Or at least, make it clear you're not some Daveslave now that's gonna do whatever Dave says. Honestly? Having Droids and Dave paranoid of each other is WAY preferable to those two being closely allied and just running a train through the entire game. I've made it clear to Droids that I'm not "with" anyone for numbers long term yet, I'm playing the field, and that I'm not a "number for Dave" just because I vote with him for one round. Bees?: Oh I used to confessionalize more, but like without active spec engagement that isn't just question walls, I can't seem to do it. And this game especially has been a mood killer. The pacing is total ass. I'm not even completely up to date on PM logs, but that's also like effort, so *heavy shrugs*. Okay cool. You know, that explains Avo's comment. It probably is Droids who has been wondering what my long term plans are. And that's real fair. I'm not just a number for Dave. I just think it's stupid to take a shot at him right now. I just do. There are way too many people for that to be a vote that goes smartly for anybody. I guess I did vote with Dave twice so that might be what worries Droids right now? Like, I voted Monk with Dave and *gasp* I'm voting with Dave *again*. I must only have one plan. Whatever. Thank you for telling me, and I'll try to soothe them as best I can. I think it's a one-way street though. Dave has never mentioned being paranoid of Droids. I think it's all Droids and like Bard and Avo worried about Dave. But I agree with you, it's much preferable to have them looking at each other. Grogu: The pacing of this game is hot garbage. Like, how long did we spend waiting for that Shipwreck round to end, only to only be in tribes for one round, then BACK TO THE MERGEEEEE I guess? I dunno. Bonobo confirmed a vote locked in on Ranger so I think we're there. Yeah, I don't know. Droids are a real mystery to me, I've never had a strong handle on them partially because of the whole hydra thing. I thought we were like, okay, back on Maroon? Then they were the one that apparently decided I needed to go. now granted they walked it back but yeah. I think it's way too messy to take any kind of "shot" this round. I know people are antsy to like start playing the game but... give it time. We're at 11. Soon we'll be at 10, 9, and 8. Those are much more primed to be rounds to #dosomething than now. I guess I also voted with Dave twice? I voted Monk then I voted Ranger here? So yeah, I could see how he thinks that or feels like he's losing his grip on the game or whatever. But I'm a free Grogu, born to ride the open winds and all that good bullshit. Bees?: It's only been a month but it feels like several, and yet it feels like no time at all. Cuz NOTHING HAS REALLY HAPPENED. It just feels like a game that is a pure drain experience, ya know? Alright cool. Bard mentioned he heard about the vote, but he didn't sound like he was actually against it strongly? But idk. he always seems like he's scrambling to catch up in every round. That's actually fair, I typically feel like I have an idea of where Droids is at, and I like to think I'm pretty honest there and most places, but I guess not quite enough? Fuck if I know dude. This is not the round in which to pull some shit, not yet. We know that something is next round involving these pennies, and odds are it's an auction, I guess the thought is you take out somebody who might be smart with the items, but like eh idk. I just think 11 is slightly too early to be pulling some shit. 9, I get, but 11? Come on, keep the big moves in your pants, I know you're just happy to see me. *gasp* Are you one of the Daveslaves? But this also feels like newbie anxiety too, who has an idea of what happens in the show but no idea how it's applicable in the forums and assuming the worst. You don't need no man. Grogu: LOL. The game's pacing is just weird. Also I gotta admit the challenges have been... something. Lots of "our judges will judge your thing" which means more downtime while we wait for judging. "We're lazy, design your own challenge" is pretty inspired, in terms of how much it murders the pacing of the game. They wanted it to feel like a game "under construction", I say, mission accomplished. Construction work is draining, we're all drained. Bard did just say he heard about Ranger being under the gun and didn't seem upset. I should try Bard's strategy. "Disappear all TC until the last 2-3 hours, show up, magically never be under any pressure, and then start playing". It seems when I've tried to take a backseat approach, people just assume I'm checked out. It's honestly impressive how one can play so hands-off while still never being on anyone's shitlist for it. An auction, kill me. Me and my 3 cents aren't gonna get shit, I guarantee it. Apparently I could've gotten more if I didn't BET EVERYTHING IN THE LAST CHALLENGE. Ugh. I think messiness is gonna get worse if there's an auction. Why would ANYONE swing for a big fish if they might have an idol, or vote steal, or who the fuck knows what? I AM DAVESLAVE. WE ARE LEGION. No but seriously, are both of Droids newbies? That would explain I think a lot of it. Bees?: Right? I don't know what's up with it. I get the feeling that Silver took a lot of challenges that used to be popular when he modded last not realizing that we as a community left them in the past on purpose and he wasn't really around for the shift away from them. Design your own challenge was a... choice. This does feel like construction work, can I have several naps? All of us? Haha, I think it helps that he actually straight up tells people he's going to be gone and he's consistently gone during certain windows which sounds like it's just when work is. But it is an interesting style, that's for sure. It kinda is impressive, yeah. I'm not sure what he's got, but I'd like to learn it. I'd love to just not be around for a long time. Well I doubt they'd only have you have 3 cents for an auction, right? Like I bet they'll give everybody a base payment and then people who have extra, just have extra. Haha, I wasn't even thinking about the fact that money was going to be in my pocket til later. I just didn't wanna make a bot cuz nah. I think you might be right, which is disgusting. Yeah, I think they've both said that they are. I know C3-P0 just finished watching Second Chances so watching the show might be factoring into some of their paranoia. Grogu: Do construction workers get naps? I thought they were just exploited for their manual labor then left to wither away later in life from physical problems from decades of manual work with little safety protocols. I mean, I think people got what they got from the auction? Err the blackjack thing. I think you get the money you have from that. So only have 3 cents is like... not a great look I guess. Interesting that they're newbies. Bard just sent me "holy shit Droids is trying to make a move here" and I don't know what the fuck that means but I'm about to go eat dinner so like, they have a very small window to pitch anything to me and I'm 99% sure I'm just gonna stay on Ranger regardless. Bees?: I don't know, maybe? Us bees are going to take naps anyways, I dare Pine to fire me. I DARE HIM. Maybe? I'm not actually sure. We'll have to see. It's just a theory about what they're doing with the money. Oh god, I haven't heard anything. I was typing up a confessional about what you had told me re Droids a bit ago, and Blindside by Icon For Hire started playing on Spotify, and I was VERY annoyed by that, but if that's actually happening I'm gonna have to have a talk with Spotify cuz what the fuck. Grogu: Oh, just wait, just let Pine TRY to fire me. I WILL FORCE CHOKE HIM. YOU HEAR ME, PINE? FORCE CHOKE. And then... I'll get Bees to sting him. Yeah. LOL. THAT'S INCREDIBLE. I'm still waiting on that PM from Droids... waiting... waiting... waiting... I don't know what it is. We'll see. The perception seems to be that you and Dave are tight now, and not just on Droids end, from multiple people. I would guess Droids wants to take a shot at Dave here? I just don't know. Bees?: Sounds like the perfect mix, I'm down. It is, and I also hate it. I haven't heard from Droids in a while, or well anybody really, so I'm a bit ._. rn. I bet it's because we're the last two from Potpourri, and we haven't ever really said anything negative about each other or really voted any other way. I just like Dave, that's about it. It's not like we're planning anything, we just talk and often agree on things. And I guess I've held two stances for specific votes or against others that were awfully similar to Dave's, in Shipwreck and here, but it's not that we've decided those things together. We bees make up our own mind. Grogu: So I still don't have anything from Droids. So if they wanna make a move here it must not involve me, I dunno. I don't know what kind of move they can make that doesn't involve me OR you? So yeah. I guess that's where it's coming from here but... it's just so sudden. It went from BEES AND DROIDS ARE A PAIR back when I was with you, and is now like, BEES AND DAVE ARE A PAIR with Droids being freaked out about it. You are someone people just LOVE to put into various pairings, I guess? I gotta go fuckin eat because I'm starving. Curry time. Yum yum. I'll be around ASAP in case anything catches on fire. Bees?: I don't know either, so like, if Droids is making a move who the fuck are are they making it with? They need 6, and I don't think they're going to find that. I know, right? I wish someone would have told me I was in a pair with Droids or Dave, I would have liked to consent. Look, we're just the most shippable, okay? Don't hate us cuz you ain't us. Ooo, enjoy the curry Sure thing. I'll let you know if I hear anything. Grogu: HELLO BEES. HOLY SHIT. I got back from getting curry and shit hit the fan. So I gotta be straight up, I was told a "big move" was happening then didn't hear anything. Then like 15 minutes before deadline when I get back online from getting dinner, I have a PM in my inbox saying that Droids wants me to join his side as the sixth person to take out "someone close to Dave". So I'm like, ok, who? And he won't say a name or anything. And apparently they have five votes ready to go there because Droids came up with this plan to both save Ranger and weaken Dave. Finally, he gave me the name, and it was you. I straight up told him it was 5 mins to deadline and you and I had come a super long way repairing our relationship and I didn't want to throw it all in the dumpster. He backed down and instead we got the stupid vote split you saw play out. No idea who voted me, whatever. Don't even care. The point is... they wanted me to blindside you. I feel like I had to tell you. I let Droids know I felt like I had to tell you, too, because not telling you felt too much like lying, and I didn't want you to find out I got offered to blindside you and was the swing vote and just... never told you that people were coming for you. It seems like you were seen as Dave's "right-hand man" or whatever, so they thought targeting you would weaken Dave. (My question is why not just go for Dave if you think Dave is the problem, but fine.) So... I'm letting you know what went down. Droids said they wanted to explain things to you first, I told them I was gonna let you know what had happened, but they seem to want to talk it out with you? They also specifically said that they wanted it known Avo and Bard were in the background and not ringleading anything and this was all Droids design or w/e. IDK how true it is but that's the narrative he's going with here. Phew. Okay. There. Bees?: Oh, so my paranoia WASN'T unfounded. Amazing. Cool cool. Like, almost everybody was online that last hour, and I had 2 PMs. I knew something was coming down. Like, I just had this feeling in my gut that what was going on was a blindside of me, and I didn't quite realize why or where it was coming from. Thanks Spotify, you were right, I don't need to be mad at you now. But also, thank you for not saying yes. The fact there was a vote on me before they fixed it to Rey told me I was right. And that also explains why everything has been so incredibly quiet since deadline. I had a PM from Bard and T/H an hour ago, that's it til you. If the whole thing was to weaken Dave, they had a shot at Dave, they should have taken it. And I've been nothing but honest and willing to work with them so like, what gives? Never had any actual reason not to trust them or work anywhere else, but hmmmm sure sounds like I got a reason now, don't it? Fuck that though. Thanks for letting me know, I appreciate it. Grogu: Well, to be fair, my only PMs since deadline are from Bard being like I'M DRUNK WHAT'S UP THAT WAS SWEATY and then from Droids being apologetic. I do think you have a chance to sorta... try to mend things with Droids? The last thing we want is for you two to be gunning for each other ON TOP of Dave and Droids gunning for each other, you know? I think, based on my interpretation, the reason for targeting [Dave Ally] and not [Dave] is that Dave is a threat shield for all the big threats left, and taking him out exposes them. So they want to leave him in as a "threat" while crippling him enough to where he can't run the rest of the game. And like... spoiler alert, if someone is a threat but can't muster numbers to get shit done, they're not really a threat? So... I don't know what next round holds. Whatever it is, everybody is talking about your relationship with Dave as a red flag. I don't personally think there's some deep RIDE OR DIE bond there. Maybe there is and I'm being naive! But, it felt wrong to blindside you. I wanted to tell you but PMs were FLYING at deadline with people begging me to switch and when I finally put my foot down everyone scrambled to toss votes where they could. I do think, like... at some point, you know, Dave's gonna become a liability for the ppl who are getting tagged with him. Like, you almost got clipped just for the APPEARANCE of being close to Dave. WHich by the way where the fuck did "Dave is a threat" even come from!? I barely experienced the Dave Thomas Experience this game, then suddenly people at merge are like DAVE = THREAT and it felt so outta nowhere. Bees?: Drunk Bard PMs are like half of his PMs. I hope so, cuz they didn't tell me jackshit. Like I didn't even really know that they had actual worries about me cuz they never said anything to me about it. I'm not gunning for Droids, I just wanna hear from them what the fuck, ya know? Oh no, I know that keeping Dave is he's a meat shield, and that's entirely it. But like come on, that's some shit. How is it a red flag? I talk to the guy, that's it. Like, what even? Am I not allowed to talk to somebody and agree with them every now and then without it meaning IT'S AN ALLIANCE? What. Hey, you told me at all, right? Like, I'll take it. And I appreciate you doing that for me. Oh that I know. I'm pretty sure it's 100% Dave is good at challenges, and actually has opinions and says them, and is charming. That's it. Like, I think it's literally just he's the kind of player who will say a name, and in the kind of merge we got, that apparently means you're scary if you can make a decision. People have thought Dave was a big threat for a while. Like, I think Dave and Maggie were seen to be running Purple or whatever. And Dave is the one who gave us the pipes, and he's been vocal about challenge efforts. But like, I literally don't know where it's coming from either. I also don't know where the whole people who I thought had trust with me aren't talking to me about things and trying to vote me out. Like, the fuck is that shit? Ftr, I'm not like actively mad, I'm just confused. Grogu: Yeah, I hear you... I'm sure there's some uneasiness there now but if there's a way to make it not bad, then that's preferable. Not "gunning" for them per se but it would seemingly put you guys on opposite sides of the game at the moment, no? Droids wants Dave out, you're seen as with Dave, therefore... yeah. Dave barely talked to me during this TC lol, like one PM total. I think it seems clear I'm not really in his plans at all lol. Which is fine! Or at least, he doesn't need me... yet. IMO it looks more like Maggie pulling things together than Dave? Dave was pretty much gone the entire day. Maggie put in the leg work to get the Ranger thing going. From what it sounds like... they were all concerned by "how close" you've gotten with Dave. Because you voted with Dave twice and didn't side with them I guess? Even though like, I thought the Monk/Cleric vote was just... whoever goes goes, it doesn't matter that much. I would almost GUARANTEE you that Droids isn't coming to these conclusions himself. SOMEONE is feeding him shit. I know you're not mad, feel free to vent with me. It's not a big deal, I sorta enjoy it through like... meta-catharsis or something. I'm not even sure that's a word. I'm tired. Leave me alone. Bees?: Yeah, I'd like to make it not bad, but that's going to need an initial reach out, huh? I mean, I guess it sorta does. But like, as you know, I tend to more take space rather than "no murder that fuck immediately." God, this is not the first time Droids has taken something to mean something else that it doesn't actually mean, and if they had actually asked the person who said whatever for clarification then they wouldn't be in the mess in the first place UGH. Oh that's how Dave is dude. He sends like 3 PMs tops during TCs or whatever. Like he'll give updates as he hears shit, but that's it. He's more talkative outside of TC. So like, the idea that he's a criminal mastermind is kinda funny. And yeah it's probably Maggie doing work, she gives off that vibe, ya know? It did seem like she put in work. But at least, she knew I was already there, so she uh didn't bother with me. I uh, I'm getting the sense I'm not exactly in people's plans like I thought I might have been. Cuz like, there was a lot of that round I had nothing for anybody, not really. Okay? But I also told them where I was coming from? And they were two people I hadn't made any connections with myself. Like, am I supposed to just.... not have opinions or express them? Like, the Monk/Cleric thing it was small potatoes, no? This vote there was a guy who was barely here, and as far as I knew wasn't part of important plans, was I supposed to just leave that there? Idk man. I do think that someone is ramping up Droids paranoia meter, they gotta be. Not necessarily like actually lying about anything but just leading questions and such. Haha, I know what you mean. I'm just like, fuck man. There's a way to clear some shit up, you gosh, idk, TALK to the person. Like you and I cleared shit up after we talked, it's not that hard if you're actually willing. God. Why would I leave you alone? You're the only person talking to me atm, and honestly, you might be the one I can trust most. Grogu: Oh yeah, I know you tend to give it time and think carefully on it obviously. I think I've seen the same pattern with Droids where they get way too paranoid/conspiracy theory about things and jump on it. Take my boot, for example... I had PM receipts, I showed them everything I was saying... but they still didn't believe me and thought I was actually gunning for them (in a round where they were immune). I don't think it's malicious on their end, it's... I dunno. Accidental paranoia that ends up in some crazy plays, lol. Well the guy is barely PMing me outside of TCs either, so who knows!? I guess it's working for him or whatever, so that's fine. I want to get to know him more, I thought we kinda almost had something going at one point but it's been pretty radio silent for days now. Maggie knew you were there, and when she said Ranger to me I sorta snap-agreed, but to most others, I heard "Maggie is pushing Ranger" and that seems to be the narrative of how things happened last round. I get the feeling that you are seen as "in" people's plans in terms of being "in the way" for some people. Same as me, actually! I have zero clue how Maggie or Dave or Rey feel about you tbh, but that seems to be the "side" of the game people are lumping you in with anyway. The Monk/Cleric thing is a perfect example of what I was talking about earlier. Take something small, build it into something paranoid-inducing, then suddenly there's conspiracy theories running around. It started as "nobody really cares too much who goes between Monk/Cleric" then became "Bees voted Monk instead of Cleric" then became "that means Bees is a duo with Dave". It just takes a lot of logical leaps to get there. Well, I hope it's "honestly" that you can trust me, because I feel pretty open and transparent with you lol. I'm trying to make good on what I said about myself way back in the round where I got voted out -- that I don't play the shady bullshit games, I like people to know exactly where I stand with them. So this is my attempt to do that with you and show you that we can work together in the longer term and watch out for each other, you know? Bees?: Yep, they get really antsy. I guess they don't have enough people talking them off that paranoia cliff. Yeah, idk. I don't think it's malicious either, it just reeks of newness. True enough. As his numero uno, I get like 2 PMs a day, that's it. So I don't know what the key to his heart is. Ah, well I didn't exactly hear much of anything, so I'll take your word for it. Yeah, I think that's where I'm at too. Which is not what I expected to be. And it might be nice to actively know I'm *in* someone's plans not not just an obstacle, so would you at all be interested in being obstacles to everybody else together and plan together? :3 I don't know how Maggie, Dave, or Rey feel about me either! The worst part is like, I fully explained why I was voting the way I was. But I guess maybe it was the fact that Bard wanted Monk as part of his tribe plans, and I still voted there anyways. Maybe that's the real problem, I didn't vote in line with their plans. So I must be planning against them. I said honestly trust you *most*, I do trust you. Like, I think a lot of what happened the round I didn't, I got sucked into the paranoia vortex. Yeah, and you've been putting in the work, and that means something. Droids hasn't messaged me yet. And for that matter, that "side" of the game hasn't yet. Feels real nice. Grogu: I really did try to talk them off the paranoia cliff with you, I tried to explain everything but they didn't listen. I even went through Bard to be like PLEASE tell Droids to calm down about Bees/Dave, but it didn't work. /shrug You get two whole PMs every day? Wow, I'm just like, very jealous of you. I waited 20 hours without hearing anything then just sent him another "HEY WHAT IS UP" PM. I dunno what to do to get on Dave's good side. Maggie adores him so... THERE'S SOMETHING THERE I AM NOT SEEING! I want to be a cool person. Does being a cool person involve being obstacles together? Because yes, I do very much like that idea. They want to paint us as being squarely on Team Dave, I want to try to open up the game a lil bit more to be more than just "Team Dave" or "Team Droids". What happens when that's not the dynamic anymore? Maybe there's more room for players like us? Avocado just sent me like maybe hands down the bitchiest PM I've ever received lol. It was like, "Sorry I'm not talking to any of you I'm depressed my game is RUINED because you all have a six person alliance". I had no idea I was in a six person alliance with you, Bees, were you aware that we were in a Final 6 deal with Dave, Maggie, Rey, and Bonobo? I sure didn't. It was news to me, let me tell you. Bees?: Yeah I know. Sometimes it doesn't work it would seem. Well it's like one at the very start, and one at the very end. With a whole lot of nothing in the middle. I guess I must be his top if I get that many PMs, huh? I will say that like a bunch of the PMs are Dave just sending me bee memes, so it's not like they're quality or game talk. Maggie I probably hear from once a day, yeah. I think he was cooler at the start, right now there's a lot of mod stuff he seems hella salty about, which sounds kinda fair. I think it does, yes. I would really like to do that as well. Cuz I think both of those camps are death. That sounds like death, I'm not about death. A joint coalition sounds nice. Oh my god. What? We have a six person alliance? Wow! We're doing really well for ourselves! It's really funny cuz like, Bonobo and I had a really weird start since like during the Lindsays round, I wasn't against voting him out since I just met him, and he knew that. And like, we never really moved past the whole "i could vote you" stage, so if that's an alliance, well uh that's real awk, cuz I think I've voted out all of my allies recently =/ Bard Bard: Oh dearest wonderful Bees hello and well met!! we made it! its merge holy crap look at us gooooo im eating and watchin a flick with the SO so tomorrow i will probably be on more and chatting! Bees?: Haha, hi Bard <3 It's always so nice to see you. I just bingewatched all of I'm Not Okay With This, and that's how I feel about the cliffhanger ending. But no worries, chat you then <3. Bard: Blessed Bees, we keep being torn apart and brought together but it looks like its for the long haul this time! its like theres a whole game ahead despite being almost literally a month into this (funny how 7 returnees does this). How was your time over there? did you enjoy the pipes? now i dont know what IM Not Okay With This is but i literally just finished fleabag and i am in need for a new media to consume. can u sell me on this show apart from the bangin title? Bees?: You're such a flatterer, and I have *missed* you. And we'll finally be together from here on out. YOU HEAR THAT MODS, FROM HERE ON OUT! We're only like a month in and yet it feels like so much longer, and also like nothing has happened. It's bananas. I have this sneaky suspicion that we're not done with returnees. I just feel it in my wings, man. Oh it was chill. Fuck you for those pipes <3 <3 <3 Like, I can do them, I'm just not used to having to do them manually and I'm not the fastest at image editing. So I didn't finish either, but sure wasted an hour on them. Y'all made Hare's entire fucking day though, he loves Pipes. How'd you like the tetravexes? Oh! Well! Imagine you combine the vibes of The Half of It, Carrie, and Perks of Being a Wallflower. That's kinda this show. It's only 7 episodes long, 20 minutes a piece, so an easy binge. Essentially you have a main girl who is made of sarcasm, anger, and anxiety. Oh also possibly maybe a dash of telekinesis, who knows? And a sprinkling of gay. It's got a lot of high school self-discovery vibes, as well as like vaguely superhero. But with a reluctant protagonist, but for good reason I think. She narrates everything cuz she was told to write in a Diary, and it's rather well done for a cast entirely compose of actual teenagers playing teenagers. It sorta reminded me of a lot of the books we had to read for English class, like Speak and Breathing Underwater. I enjoyed it, and I need more. Also Fleabag is amazing, excellent choice. Bard: YEAH MODS YOU CANT BREAK US UP LIKE THAT AGAIN GDI YOURE WEAK AS CAN BE PINE. WEAK. also considering all the returnees that appear to pop online i think we can guarantee that we will get another lovely lil surprise a few rounds down the line but damn if that aint a problem for another day. we gotta figure out what the hell is going on in merge!! i spent so much time thinking "ok wtf tribes" for it to only be one round what the hell. Did you feel it in your wings that we would yet again come together?? Oh fuck you for the tetravexes too <3 i literally didnt finish either of them. at about the 50 minute mark i gave in amd just chatted up the mods asked how their days were, flirted at meme a bit, and of course told silver hes a good boye. also yall can thank dave for the pipes! Oh god i love the perks of being a wallflower. sounds like a real comin of age type deal i could get down with that. plus easy peasy binge material is absolutely blessed. fleabag was also great for that. also "a sprinkling of gay" was my nickname in high school what a coincidence! hows merge shenanigans goin so far? apart from my first round of pms im just getting back to people now so i might be playing catch up a touch! Bees?: YEAH! Oh I had noticed that, like Tragedy and Lindsays have been online a lot lately. That's a later problem, you're right. Fuck if I know dude, I think we're all still burntout from Shipwreck. I did, yes. We are destined to coexist my dear. Haha, that was Hare. I didn't even attempt them. A lot of our tribe tested them out before we chose anything. Oh sure, sure. I just flirt with all the mods regardless, it leads to really funny reactions a lot of the time. Silver is the goodest boye, isn't he? Hm, I don't know that I will thank him. So do I!! I've watched that movie quite a lot. It definitely is that, yeah. It also has two of the kids from the It reboot, and they do a real good job. Sophia Lillis is the main actress, and I appreciate her ability to constantly look moments away from an anxiety explosion. It's a whole mood. Yes, like, I didn't intend to finish it in a day, but it was easy enough to do. Fleabag is very good for a binge, I love binging shows. Haha, perfect. It's been quiet as fuck man. Like, if anyone is actively planning anything, they sure ain't doing it with me. I think we're all just tired. I don't think you're catching up to anything. Your tribe was the only one with any sort of action. You might be ahead of the ball! Bard: there are too many problems now to worry about some silly returnee coming back (also please mods i know u said this gane was gonna go to march but hhhhhhhhhhh what if it didnt im tired) that sounds like hare. remember the spam challenge? oh my god it was like a whole new person for a hot sec. also good call on not attempting that shit worked out so hard. i was pretty sure i couldnt do it beforehand and definitely coulda called that one quits 5 min in. but hey this round took 5 min to slap up a bot and thats it. really livin for my 2 whole pennies over here woot woot now as for flirtin with the mods, im sorry i gotta give it to the one with an accent. what can i say??? im a sucker for am accent i ended up binging (with babish) tonight and i was inspired to make cannolis (this will go terribly). also i am not okay with this has the same creator as the end of the fucking world holy shit i loved that show. its that fucked up sorta coming of age that has some actual relatability despite the heightened circumstances! shit i might have to get this going and soon now that fleabag is done ok so this vote thing. i know we havent talked a frick ton of game here, but that seems to be a bit what its like across the board. even a couple hours into tribal now and its a slow roll. avo was tossin out an idea of getting rid of returnees. im not incredibly hype on it but its a plan of some sort. i don't think im ahead of the ball but im tryin to keep up with it best i can. Bees?: Yes, let's visit more of that much much later. I do remember the spam challenge, he gets very excitable. Thanks man, I didn't feel up to building a bot, bot challenges always make me feel dumb. You worked hard for those 2 pennies. I mean Silver has a Canadian accent, but I feel you. I am too. Ooo that sounds fun. Oh, I didn't realize that! That explains the 90's but not 90's vibe of it all. You'll have to tell me what you think Yeah, this vote feels super weird(I'm also cool if we cut most of the chatter to just talk vote though). I've heard there's a sure let's go Rey, but then a counter of Dave? All while Rey is telling Dave she didn't start it as a counter, and nobody but Avo mentioning Dave and Rey as the wagons. This feels like the Grogu round again, and I don't like it. But like, it's not even Grogu doing any of the things which makes it mmweird. I think I'm behind the ball by a lot. Also, anybody know what Ranger is doing or where he is? I haven't seen or heard anything from or about him yet this merge. Bard: oh god im just getting in now to see whatever mess lay ahead here. my apologies for some brevity but im trying to get caught up! my understanding so far is that a big ol train is gathering on ranger. hes been a friend since the beginning to me but ive always understand hes not one for doing the whole pming thing with people. ranger has barely messaged me since we got here and i thought i was pretty close to him so i think hes checking out a bit. as for rey/dave wagons, my understanding from last night was rey was a name being tossed out from a few diff places but my response was semi-neutral as was a lot of peoples it seems. the dave train i dont know much about. rey was asking me about dave votes but never elaborated why. i mentioned that to dave but i dont know his thoughts on it! im tryin to get caught up here tho so any help for a fill in would be appreciated muchly! Bees?: Hey it's okay <3 Yep that's exactly where it seems to be going. Ranger seems to be the vote at this point. And I'll be honest, I never made headway with him, so that's where my vote is at. Ranger hasn't PMed anybody as far as I can tell this round, so that's largely the basis of it. Yeah I think Rey was a starting point to discuss. And it sounds like Rey was trying to figure out everything that was going on with Dave from the previous TC and some people took that to mean that she wanted to vote him out here when in fact, she was just trying to understand the bits of information she had as she doesn't have too many sources for it. So it sounds like a big misunderstanding overall. From what I can tell, nobody really wants to make a huge big move and would rather go for something that won't piss off too many people. Bard: well yeah seems ranger has been awol across the board. hes online and knows about the vote (surprisingly this was not me who told about this!). he doesnt seem overly freaked out or anything and i just dont know how to take that response. These are some of the first pms im got from him apart from one last night about bears and no one winning immunity and another at the start of merge saying theyre feelin that burnout. yeah rey was definitely just collecting information and gave the wrong impression around. im not too concerned on it all, seems like a moot story overall. As for #BIGMOVES yeah no not seeing much. i did my thing where i went around and asked if people were willin to move off of ranger but lord no one wants to stick their neck out and im thinkin i should follow suit at this point. honestly bees, its a bit lame for me. he was like that first friend in the game you know? hes always been close to trouble from the get go but yeah. rest in peace dnd fam. i already poured a beer out for him like weeks ago and I don't really wanna waste another so maybe i will just drink that one in his honor (also cuz today was wild even outside this game and i could very much so use a beerL Bard: Yeah. I heard he sent out a few PMs, none have been to me. Honestly, it's been quiet the last half an hour which has concerned me. I don't know how to take that response either, like is he resigned to going home or is there some other plan or something? Fuck if i know. That's what it seemed from my perspective too. It's a nonevent. Me either, but considering when I was writing my confessional about the round Spotify gave me Blindside by Icon for Hire I've been side-eyeing things for a bit. As far as I can tell there's only the one thing, but I've thought a vote was set before and had it go weirdly. So if there is some counter-ranger move, I sure don't know about it. I am sorry about that It is hard to vote out someone who is a friend. Maybe drinking it is the better call, yeah. Bard: Well thats about that. He didnt seem to take it too hard overall but I guess he has some experience in this department. And oh gosh dilly i went for the drinking beesss. miller high life. the champagne of beers. it was also on sale which was the entirety of my decision making process. poured one out for ranger, gave em the big rip, and now we're off and running in the auction oh hell yeah lets go. *looks at penny count* fuck. at least the set up for the auction makes it possible for a penniless fool like me (ok i have 2 pennies but i wanted to say penniless). hows your night, bees? Bees?: Ah well. I was surprised to see a vote on me, but I guess it ended up being a Rey vote? I wonder if someone changed their vote or something. Bard, please don't drink bees. We don't like it. I'm not really a beer drinker, hard cider life tho. Haha, at least you aren't screwed out of items, right? you only have two pennies to rub together, but they won't make a dime It should nice! I have plans to watch some SG-1, once I actually finish some last work things. How about you? Bard: Heyoo bees! that lil vote was almost definitely an artifact of that lil move to vote you (grogu already let me in on the deets here). the #bigmovez came about in that last hour and was a wild little rollercoaster. if you have questions please let me know but i was more a bystander waiting to see what was gonna happen on that one. but yes anyways, dont worry im not looking to drink you (although this is a great opportunity to call you a tall drink and give you a wink, but i will keep it tactful!). hard cider is more than acceptable. my partner tries as many different types as he can! hes landed on a honeycrisp apple cider that im demanded to get any time i go to the supermarket well my two pennies are *poof* now! they werent about to do much for me. ive got my 25 bucks and a pocket full of hope (and lint, way too much lint). i should really read this box descriptions gee, whoa ive actually only seen stargate atlantis (im not sure how this happened either). darn work things getting in the way of our stories! im at work now sneaking in this pm hoping my boss doesnt walk in (: my night was ok! definitely a fair amount of being unsure of everything. my assumptions about the state of the game were more than blown apart last night so im still trying to figure out where i exist in this all. i feel that ive been tacked on to others games and have sort of lost some agency of my own that id love to find. but yes sorry a bit rambly on my end! hows the day today Bees?: I have several questions in fact, because so far only Grogu has even told me about anything to do with it. So I would very much like to know what the reasoning for any of that was, cuz from what I'm understanding, a lot of the people I thought I was actually in good with and had been for a while, weren't in good enough with me else they wouldn't have tried to vote me out, huh? So I would really like an explanation. I mean, I'd also like to talk to the people more involved, but I haven't heard from hardly anybody since TC or anything which I'm guessing means they're scared I'll be mad or they feel some kind of guilt. That is good to hear, cuz I thought you and i were in a good place. Flattery can get you many places, friend. Oh that sounds really lovely. Reading just sounds hard, why read when you can just look pretty? I loved the movie when I was a kid just never got to see any of the series. I watched a ton of other sci-fi though. How tricksy! Oh, so were mine, friend. From what I understand of everything, there seems to be some assumptions about where I happen to be as well. I do wish though someone would have told me that Dave was my number one person I was close to, I'd have loved to have a chance to consent to that. I feel less a part of people's plans now and more like an obstacle people see as they need to overcome, and I'm not exactly sure how or why that happened, and I'd love to get to the bottom of it. It's okay, it's a rambly sort of day. Well my day has been okay, work ended early today! I've really just been waiting to get more information about the fuck happened.
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 10, 2021 23:55:26 GMT
Bard Bard: Well, I believe the reasoning is a view that youre quite close to Dave, but no one wanted to actually take a shot at Dave (now the logic here doesnt make as great of sense to me but im sure there are hidden agendas and the such!). in the last lil bit before the end of tc i was approached about making a vague """big move""" which precipiated into the thing we know about now! I cant speak to the feelings of droida or avocado but my impression was that this was done out of a fear of Dave rather than any sort of falling out with you. my position in the whole thing was more of me being expected to follow along but it also seemed both precarious and an unlikely event to come together as they wanted to rely on grogu. grogu and i spoke about it in the lead up to the end of tc and it was pretty clear that is wasnt going to happen. i believe the vote you saw for yourself was ranger last second switching in an effort to move the vote to rey. i told him flat out its not happening and id put my vote on him. i think others told him theyd toss their votes elsewhere (which imo seems like more of a bid for jury/returnee favour than anything). but yeah im typing this on my phone at work! if it feels like ive left some gaps in the story let me know because goodness i cant proofread anythinf Ive got no qualms with you and this #bigmove being targetted at you was pretty unfortunate! As it was pitched to me, it was late in the game and i was more or less lead to believe that the vote choice was firm if i wanted to save ranger. also the whole "oh boy its the first big move and im gettin wrapped up in it" excitement energy was pumpin. admittedly while I think we are personally in a fine space we havent talked a great deal of game! no onea fault thats just how out comfort levels have been in this very anxious lil bout of merge times. reading is quite the difficult task i gotta say. i have in fact purchases many books without having read them to look smart by having a semi filled bookcase at home Yeah i think assumptions have screwed the pooch here a bit. there were a few comments about how a number of people just were not sure where you stood in the game in relation to...well just about anyone. admittedly im not sure either but the assumption that you were close to dave appears to have come from some PMing scandal from before the shipwreck i believe. this keeps being mentioned but i havent been filled in on what happened! if you are an obstacle, it is not something id like to overcome. id rather figure out why we became obstacles and work through it. i think theres been some miscommunicay (oh yes myself included). so yeah. lets get to the bottom of it. this one may have also been rambly! im not sure i havent proof read or checked the length. please enjoy my under the desk pm from work, i look forward to secretly reading the response from the ever peering gaze of my boss oh boy that was rambly Bees?: My theory on why people don't want to take a shot at Dave is likely due to the fact that he's good at challenges and if he goes, well that just opens up the door to get rid of other good challenge people, no? And people want him as a meat shield. And if by close you mean, I talk to him every now and then and often agree with him, well goddamn I guess I'm allied to the whole game, huh? Thing is like, if they're actually afraid of Dave and they think I'm actually in tight with him, then why would voting me out be a smart move on their part? Wouldn't that just make Dave really mad and actually gunning for them? It doesn't make good sense. But also, if they're willing to vote for me, that *does* feel like a falling out with me, cuz it's like, they don't consider me close enough to not want to vote me out? Like, that hurts man. I was pretty sure it was Ranger yeah, but like it still sucks man. I definitely get the oo i can be part of a big move, excitement, so I don't blame you for that, not really. And it's not like you voted that way either. You're right we haven't, want to? I mean reading for fun is easy enough, but reading for actual tasks is hard and effort and no thanks. I've been honest with people about what I think this whole game, why couldn't they just come and ask me? Thing is, the way this game has gone, I don't think anyone has any idea of where anyone stands with anybody else. So why am I being singled out for being a mystery when it seems to me the entire merge is that? I don't get it. What PM scandal? I vaguely remember something, but I'm not actually sure what you mean. I mean I don't see you as an obstacle? Like, I thought we were friends and I really like you and have wanted to work with you, which is why I've been giving you my opinions on things and what's going on. So if talking through stuff will solve whatever, I'd like to. Haha, I appreciate the train of thought honestly. Don't get caught. Don't want you to have to explain to your boss why you're conversing with a bunch of bees. T/H Tortoise: Hey Bees! Hare's totally fine, he just has a very weird sleeping pattern. I'll keep an eye on him to make sure he's okay. Thanks for the concern though! Well, I guess it's somewhat of a relief that he's not ignoring us, at least? Hopefully he'll be around more soon. Not that I should complain about anyone's activity... Things seemed pretty slow on the vote until I went to sleep so I missed all the crazy stuff happening. Good thing I have Hare to keep me updated. Bees?: Ahh, that makes sense. So do I. But it's been better lately! Of course I'm hoping so. It's been very quiet overall. What crazy stuff did you miss? Was it perchance the half-attempt to blindside me? Cuz that happened and I am still a little unsure about why and trying to sort that out. Grogu Grogu: LOL. I just got the picture of you opening up your PMs and sighing bc Dave has sent you yet another Bee Meme. lmfao. What kinda mod stuff is Dave salty ab right now? I mean I'm salty at this game in general lol, but nothing in the last round ticked me off. We're doing so well with our six person alliance that we didn't even know about! Yeah, Bonobo has this view of the game I think where he sees it as the underdogs and the non-underdogs and I think it just depends on where you fall in that view for him. As a returnee, and someone who had no connections... I think he sees me as useful. Honestly this whole game is like... why am I fighting anymore lol. I got booted. That's it, the gig is up, nobody's gonna vote for me to win even if I make FTC. There's a reason I think no returnee has ever won a Survivor game on MafiaScum? Because the argument "They got voted out once I didn't" is like... yep, you're right, end of argument. I fully expect to get dragged along to the end of this game to be the easy argument to win against. Hell, if people were smart, they'd be fighting to drag both me and Rey to the end so that they can be the obvious easy choice in a F3 situation? It's hard to not get a little teensy bit depressed thinking about that. But... I'm not just gonna mope ab it you know? I want to have fun and play it out. I'm close to my record here for longest time spent in a game without getting unscrupulously blindsided, why not play it out and see what happens? Bees?: Haha, I'm glad that amused you. I like a lot of the memes actually! Considering the state of this game, having something I know will always make me laugh is not to be underappreciated. Oh nothing this last round, there was just a comment about the mods flavour and all. Like so well, wow! Clearly we're just running this game and being really mean to those underdogs Ah, that's fair. You know, he never did check back in with me about anything. I think he more likes you overall. Like you got the updates on last round, I got very very few. I suppose that's fair. I don't know, I think it depends on the game and the jury. In some of the one-night games returnees have won. I think recently Mipha not winning wasn't because she was a returnee but rather she didn't own a lot of the things that she did. I think you can follow it up with the argument of "yes, but then I didn't get voted right back out again, now did I? So I've done something right, no?" I'm sorry it depresses you. I don't think you're out of the running though cuz I mean, look at this game so far, it's not been much of anyone really doing anything, so I think coming back might be more of an accomplishment than any other game. Yeah, I do get that. Let's just have some fun. I promise not to blindside you again, kay? Speaking of, finally got a message from Droids and it did not explain anything yet. It was very accusatory of just "I've heard you're with Dave now and led the Ranger charge, is that true?" and I'm like... I guess we're doing this confrontational, huh? Droids Droids: Yo Bees we should chat, sorry I haven't been around today. We heard you are basically tight with Dave now and that you were leading things on Ranger, is that the truth?
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Bees?: We should chat, yes.
I am not tight with Dave. I like him, yes, and often have similar thoughts to him, but I'm not with him. I did want the Ranger vote, but there were like 3 different people who all seemed to want the Ranger vote. Why didn't you ask me this during last round? I would have told you, I've always told you things.
Droids: Honestly I should have. Sorry about that. We just felt like you weren't being up front about the Monk vote after we were hearing some things from other people who were saying that you were becoming very close to Dave. And it felt like you were continuing to work against Bard/Avo who I feel like we could have just ridden deep into the game together. We were just feeling burned because like, you were the first pick to have on our tribe and we thought we were super tight and it suddenly didn't feel that way anymore once we merged again.
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Bees?: But I was being upfront about the Monk vote, and the Ranger vote. I am completely honest with you about my feelings of what's going on. All the time. I even theorize with you on what is actually going on. Where is all of this coming from? Like, you're the person I've been allied to longest, and have done the most with. Considering that y'all attempted a blindside on me last round, it sure doesn't feel like that's a group where I'm really valued if you're willing to vote me out because of an assumed connection without even talking to me about it. Like, I want to play this game with you. We'd also talked about doing a something with Bard, which I am very down for doing. But we didn't actually fully talk about a full on agreement that was also Avo, and at no point did anyone ask me or tell me that Ranger was a part of any plan, so if voting there was a sign of siding against an alliance I didn't even know I was fully in in favour of another I also didn't realize I was in, I'm sorry for that. But we've also talked about having worries about Avo, so I kinda thought we weren't forever tied to him. If that's not what's up then enlighten me. Cuz it really seems like there's been a lot of stuff assumed and worried about, but not actually talked about directly and I had no idea those were situations we were in. You gotta talk to me and actually tell me what you're thinking, I'm not psychic, and I have always told you what I was thinking. I've never stopped doing that, I'm not sure at what point you stopped doing it with me.
Maggie Maggie: Pesto is good. I can agree to pesto. What other things do exploding stars make? I think just space in general is something I barely think about and honestly this is the first time in years that I've had an actual conversation about it! Spotify is so mischievous gosh! How did it know??? It's funny because I did hear a rumour about a last-ditch effort to vote you but no one asked me to do it. Bees?: Okay phew, I was worried for a sec. Maybe we weren't meant to be. Most elements are made from exploding stars!! Do not ask me how many most is, but like the base bunch definitely yes. I talk about space a shocking amount tbh. I don't even know, but it seems it did. I did also hear about that rumour. But you see, I think part of the rumour is that you and I are part of a solid voting bloc, so of course they wouldn't include you. Idk, I'm still getting to the bottom of it all.
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 11, 2021 0:25:57 GMT
Droids Droids: No you're right. But we felt like you weren't keeping us in the loop about your connection to Dave. Maybe that was overblown but we were basically heard that you were working really hard to save Dave earlier. And then with this Ranger vote it feels like it was decided by Dave/Maggie/Rey/you and we didn't feel like we were involved in that at all. Like that was a big vote and it felt like we were hearing about it secondhand and late in the game. Versus what happened on the tribe we picked you for, I felt like we made our intention about working with you and deciding that vote all together really clear at the very beginning. Like we felt like we showed we wanted to work with you while you were keeping us in your pocket while going and deciding what to do with other people. Maybe that's not actually what happened, but we didn't feel like we were involved in the important conversations.
I felt like we were down to try to swing something with Bard Avo and T+H, I mean that's where we left off on Maroon right? Like I know we didn't have anything solid and we weren't sold on it, but that's what I thought we were working towards.
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Bees?: I've told you exactly what kind of connection I have to Dave. I like him, he makes me laugh, that's it. He kinda doesn't always log in a whole lot and doesn't talk a bunch during TCs, so he's hard to rely on. I wasn't working especially hard to save Dave, not for the sake of saving Dave. But rather, I felt like a move on him will cause a much bigger mess this early into a merge and one that it wouldn't be easy to predict the fallout, and I didn't want a move that was going to be that huge. And there was a guy, I didn't personally have any sort of connection with, who also hadn't talked to me at all or hardly anyone that I could tell, it made sense. It was not some plan between me/Dave/Maggie/Rey. I don't even know if Rey or Maggie like me. At least, not in an alliance sort of way. Rey I barely know. Like dude, it sounds like you let your paranoia get fanned into a much bigger fire. I told you what I thought when I heard it and it wasn't like a bunch of important conversations happened. Like a lot of the time TCs happen where I hear practically nothing the entire round, or most of what I hear is from very specific people. You're usually one of those people, and I bring you the things I hear, I always have. I thought you wanted to work with me too, and I knew that's why you picked me for your tribe. I get feeling left out of important conversations dude, a lot of the time you bring me information and stuff that I had no idea was even happening because the people you heard it from hadn't talked to me hardly at all. I play so much PM people and wait hours for them to PM me back all the time.
I thought Maroon was in a decent place yes, but as a whole we hadn't actually agreed and decided we were going to do that had we? It was more of an assumption. Like, I'm not disinterested in that. But I'm going to be really honest, the fact that you all were willing to have a conversation about voting me out and seriously actually were trying to do that, without asking me what I felt and wanted really feels incredibly shitty. Like, this was a first test of trust and y'all bailed on me. I've never wanted to target you, and the time your name did come up, you remember what I did? I defended you, and there was not a world in which I was going to vote you out. If someone wanted to make that happen, they were going to have to do it without me. That's the kind of ally I am, I don't talk about whether or not I should try to vote them out, I say no, and I come talk to that person when I have worries. Remember the Grogu round? I came and talked to you, I told you what I heard and asked you what was or wasn't true. I'm the kind of person who plays these games as honestly as I possibly can, which is probably a bad idea, and yet, I do it anyways. So like, dude, where does this leave us?
T/H Hare: Yeah, we did get a message from that from droids last night about that. We're not about to randomly turn on you after all the time we spent together, so I just told him to chill, it's an easy vote right now, don't go crazy, we can relax, and then tried to pretend like it never happened and just let the idea die. Unfortunately he didn't let the idea die and we weren't the only people he messaged about that. I'm surprised he felt that way about you, I didn't see it coming at all. His reasoning is that you were too close to Dave. And you said earlier today you aren't close to Dave explicitly. I guess that was motivated by hearing about this? Dave's reputation absolutely overshadows him at this point in the game. He's not even logging on and people like droids are terrified to even think about him. Bees?: Yeah, that's what I thought was the case. But like, man, I was surprised that it was a thing that even happened. I didn't even know that there was concern about me or whatever like that. Yeah uh, he did not let it die, no, not even a little. I'm still trying to figure it all out. And I heard that too, and that's such a shit reason. And it really doesn't make me feel good if like, the first moment of doubt I'm not talked to about this worry and instead a vote is tried on me? Like, what's that about? And yeah a little. Like, I like Dave, right? But like, I'm not forever tied to the dude. He's not super around a lot, and I do find that hard to rely on ya know? Yep, it really does. He's not that scary, not really. I think it's a bit more of like, he's placed well enough in challenges that he could be viewed as a challenge threat, and then Droids is also very good, where it seems like Droids is worried about either taking Dave out and having people instantly then decide to take out the next best challenge guy, OR Dave making that move first. It's some super intense paranoia, which I get, I understand that but like, that's when you talk to the people you trust to figure out what even the fuck. Hare: Yeah. I feel kind of bad because it was just so awkward being a part of this at all and I wish he could have just gone with the ranger plan like we already agreed to. and it feels bad that we didn't get to be the first ones to tell you about this. i thought droids was supposed to be cool, man. he used to be all down to roll with maroon on the last round we were on that tribe and instantly he just goes off over quite literally nothing. Personally I don't know where his obsession with Dave comes from. Maybe it's challenges maybe it's something else. Maybe the two hydra heads just feed paranoia off each other all day until this happens. Heh, that's a funny image. Just an increasingly panicked discord log that crescendos over the course of 24 hours and peaks with this. Now I want to read their mandatory log dump thread. hahaa Bees?: I just.. I feel hurt and lied to. Like, why didn't they just talk to me? I thought we had trust there and a rapport, but like fuck man. Eh, you at least didn't pretend like you didn't know about it. I'm not exactly miffed with y'all. Like, I thought we were going to work with maroons. So like, for me, voting Ranger was fine cuz he wasn't maroon. If there was some actual plan that keeping him around needed, wish I would have heard about it. But like, I sure feel left out of a lot of shit man. And it's all rumours and whispers and people not just actually going to the source to figure shit out. Sure that can be a little risky, but if you're supposed to have trust with somebody, wouldn't you like, talk to them? Honestly? I don't know if it's purely just Droid's paranoia. They act in a way that it kinda sounds like somebody is purposefully making them more paranoid so maybe they vote out all of their other options and only focus in one way so they have to only rely on those people and never see the blindside when it happens. Idk, I might just be extra cynical today. Haha, it actually is. How's your hydra dissonance?
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 16, 2021 22:14:33 GMT
Dave Dave: Congrats on your immunity win! I honestly expected that to be a fake immunity considering how trolly things are.
If they were expecting people to win big in blackjack they wouldn't have shuffled the deck before each round. I complained to Meme and he said "this challenge is about making a bot that's good at blackjack, not one that's good at counting cards." Look, chief, the way you be good at blackjack IS to count cards.
I suppose it could have been worse. Imagine having to make a roulettebot.
Also real life has been kicking my ass but I swear I will be better soon!
Bees?: Hey thanks, considering all of the events of today, I'm real fucking glad I have immunity. There was a chance it was fake, but I didn't wanna treat it like it was.
Uh, but what... that's.... blackjack tho??? Does Meme not know how blackjack works? Oh dear.
Dave... I don't even know how roulette works, the idea of trying to make a bot for something I don't even understand has instigated my flight and fight response something FIERCE.
Yeah same man. I don't hold it against you one bit.
Dave: Here is the way roulette works. You give the croupier $20, and he says "thank you", and he spins the wheel, and then you leave with twenty fewer dollars in your wallet. Saying "Put it all on black, baby!" is optional but not mandatory.
That sucks that today has been rough for you. Go decompress; I will be here for you any time you choose.
Bees?: Hahaha. But what if I want to put it all on red? Is that not an appropriate choice? I wouldn't know, I've never gambled before.
Honestly? In some ways I PMed you cuz you're somebody that I know I can just talk to and you'll be pretty chill about whatever and willing to just shittalk and be a friend for a little. But thanks. Really I'm more in that place where what you want is some brand of distraction and company but not like intense focus on anything, ya know?
Dave: Red is the color of red ink which traditionally means losses on the income sheet. So if you bet on red, you are subconsciously telling everyone else at the table you hope that they lose. It's kind of like the Don't Pass line on craps, which I assume you also don't get if you don't know roulette rules.
I know exactly what you mean! Choose a topic and we can just grill out and relax.
Bees?: Oh yes, that tracks. I follow now. You are right, I don't know Craps either! I knew about Blackjack because it came up in stats class.
Honestly no idea. I'm real tired man. I legitimately may just take a nap and deal with anything game related tomorrow. Which I know is some shit all things considered but like, it's been a daaaaaaay. There is not enough caffeine or booze in my house currently kind of day.
Dave: I have so little room to object to anybody handling IRL stuff instead of game stuff it's not even funny. And that's compared to the normal amount of room people have to object to that, which is still very close to zero.
My parents used to own a craps table and invite friends over to play for quarters. Apparently I was allowed to play when I was younger but since I didn't know what all the bets did I just bet on "The Field", which I later learned is a terrible bet to make.
I did learn that apparently there was an attempted blindside on you last round because supposedly you and I are secretly running the game? You/Me/Grogu/Bonobo/Maggie/Rey are all in a Final Six alliance.
I'm sure this comes as quite a shock to you, learning you are in a Final Six alliance. I felt the exact same way!
Bees?: Nobody should have any room to object to that, like, come on. We've all got lives outside of this, I think it's cool if we attend to it now and again.
I didn't even know what you were betting on in the first place! Thank you for teaching me something new today.
I did know about the attempted blindside on me, part of why I went as hard for that immunity in the first place. I did also hear that it was apparently because you and I are inseparable and people don't wanna take you out because you're such a good shield, but also wanna weaken you at the same time, so gotta take out your right hand bees.
I was very shocked to learn about this majority alliance. I wish I would have been told so I could have consented to it. At least I didn't go home for something I wasn't actually apart of. Paranoia is a hell of a drug, my god.
Dave: I know, this is ridiculous. I took a massive activity hit and came back to learn that apparently I'm running the whole show? I guess losing Lindsay and Cleric going home the first time was just part of my master plan?
As for this TC, I think for the sake of our safety it's time to break up Avo/Bard/Droids/TH. No major preference on which one goes, but it's confirmed that they see each other as an F4 and they are gunning for us so yeah, I want to cut that shit out.
Bees?: Well yeah, don't you know? You're the scary mastermind behind everything bad that has happened in this game. I thought you knew? What do you mean it wasn't you or intentional? That sounds like fake news, Dave.
You might just be right. T/H I think is a lot more useful, cuz like they at least seem to like you and wanna do something with you and aren't just sitting there afraid of your name. I'm not really sure what the best move would be and my brain isn't fully in this today.
Dave: I think the numbers are there as well if we can coalesce on a name; Grogu seems to be tired of their shit and obviously Cleric isn't a super big fan after the Shipwreck.
I like T/H too and would prefer that they stay.
Bees?: I think if we coalesce on a name, the best ones to look at would be one of Avo or Droids. Like.. they're kinda the ones who are painting you with the big threat scary brush, as well as the ones super involved in some of the bullshit from last round. HOWEVER, I do not know which. I am thinking and trying to like catch up from the day off and the aftermath of the shit that could have happened.
They're not an option for me, straight up.
Dave: Avocado would be my pick then. TH implied the same thing about them being the ones orchestrating all of this.
Bees?: Avo is probably the one most people are fed up with, so it wouldn't be a hard sell.
Dave: He is rumored to have the Prime Number idol, apparently, which makes things a little trickier.
Bees?: Oh, of course he is. That's exactly where it would be, because of course. *sigh*
Dave: How would you feel about publicly implying Avocado but voting Bard? I think Bonobo has wanted Bard out for a while and Cleric obviously has a complicated history with him.
Bees?: Idk, like I don't know that Bard is instigator of a lot of the rumours going around. I think if it's not Avo, then it should be Droids. But if the worry is an idol, having a different vote is a good plan, yeah. I have no idea what Bonobo wants. Haven't really talked to him much. But I think it's doable, to have public target while the vote is elsewhere. Really doable.
Avocado Avocado: hey bees. i know we kinda fell out a lot after that last tribal council, but i wanna come up to you and let you know that that round was chaotic for everyone involved. i just felt kinda shitty and burnt out right after it cos i actually liked ranger and thought that he was chill based on our experiences in the past, which is why i was reluctant to vote him in the first place. beyond that ive been like. kinda demotivated in general? the public perception is that youre kinda in a group with dave since he said that he was 'extremely tight' with you, and that hypothetical majority made it hard not to feel like theres not a path forward especially since im not a great social game player of my own idk i dont want you to think that im an asshole or hate you or anything, im just afraid a putting my own foot in my mouth and shit. BUT i wanna make this shit up to you my mans and i really want us to make up and move forward together in the future. so ima give you something really cool after the deadline hits Bees?: Oh no, I caught that. It sounds like it was all sorts of a mess and a lot of it really could have been solved by people honestly talking to each other. I just had never gotten that connection with Ranger, not really. I was very honest with you about what I thought and why. I guess i get that. Okay what group? Cuz I was certainly never informed of this group. I *like* Dave, but that's it. A lot of what was assumed sounds like pure paranoia though, like, y'all got a little wrapped up in something you thought was happening and some trusth problems. You think you're not a great social player? You never gave off that vibe dude. And you actually seem like one of the more solid ones cuz you're actually willing to hear people out about where they're at. I mean, from how the round went, it didn't seem like you hated me? It just seemed like you were afraid I didn't value you much at all Which Is a worry I can understand, and I am sorry I made you feel that way. But alright? Avocado: yeah that was basically my fault. i got caught up in my own paranoia and shortsightedness and i kinda isolated myself to one particular spot and convinced myself that things were going badly for me like some sort a hypochondriac thing i thought the common perception goin around was that you dave bonobo and maggie were a group. cos dave said he was REALLY tight with you earlier on, but then you started drifting apart? i was going off a what he directly told me so if thats wrong then i would more than like to know cos i was feelin kinda down and outta it when things started pickin up. and i mean. thanks dude. you know thats like the first time ive ever heard that. i tried up a new style a pming when i was starting off this game and gummy bear taught me a lot about what to give and what to expect from people and basically i had to step shit up, and i did. i think theres a reason this is the furthest ive ever made it in a game and i dont want my journey to end here just yet. idk i feel like ive made a BIIIIG improvement from my past as a sucker and i wanna keep going ANYWAY in about (checks watch) ten minutes youll see the cool thing that ive got for the both of us together. im glad we're chill with each other now cos i wanna regroup and reconnect and crush shit with one another Bees?: I don't think the game is segmented off into sides really, just the impression I have ya know? I think this is a much more individualistic view of the game. But I totally get falling into your own paranoia feedback loop. Lol, no. They could be a something, but I'm not a something with them. Bonobo and I never made it past the whole "hey so you know we did just meet and all so I'm not going to pretend I have no reason to vote you out, but i probably won't be." place we started in. Like, we're not close. I wouldn't say Dave and I are super close or anything, we're friendly but I think that's as far as it goes. Really? You're honestly doing rather well. Sure you fall prey to your own paranoia, but like, you seem to have a decent head on your shoulders. I don't think your journey does just end here, I really don't. I think you have a lot of game left to play Thank you. You didn't have to do that, but I appreciate the gesture, it means something. Avocado: yeah that was kinda the perception i had before i met up with you/a few other people individually and talked shit out. i know i was kinda cranky and self pitying and shit but i really wanna reconnect and bury whatever hatchet arose from the ashes of those 'burned bridges' in that tribal council OKAY that makes a lot more sense considering the context that i have for shit. i was always thinking that you were on the outside of that group in the first place cos theres no way someone like you would willingly play fourth fiddle to three other people, so you not really bein connected with them in the first place is definitely more believable then bein a follower. tbh i was KINDA leanin for plagueis to come back cos i felt bad about screwing him over and i wanted our close ally to come back to wreck shit with us, but i couldnt control where ranger voted and he ended up killin plagueis. i couldnt exactly plan shit in dms since i had to talk about it in a public forum, but i did what i could to ditch someone you dont feel comfortable with and move us both into a more workable position with a lot more options Bees?: Yeah, I think that's still where this is. There's been so many swaps and all that having any like solid lines just seems silly. But doesn't mean it won't stop some people. I mean like, I get it. I completely understand why you would have the feelings and reactions you did. I'm not really a burned bridges kind of person my dude. Like, in fact I'm stupidly forgiving sometimes. But like, look, you get one freebie, right? So if we're good and stay good, then we good. You could have just asked. That would have always been the answer. But I get it. And uh no, I'm not gonna join a group that I don't feel on par with, ya know? Like I wanna play games with partners, not underlings or as somebody's pawn. I tend to have my own opinions too much to just blindly follow anybody. Yeah, still, I won't forget it. And I didn't end up crying over the choice, you can't prove anything. Avocado: i appreciate you bein open and understanding about it my mans. ironically this reminds me a the whole grogu round where i was in your position and shit and i helped you clear your head. circumstances have changed a LOT since then but i want us to reconnect and do better about this shit cos i feel like i dropped the ball majorly, but i wanna put that behind us too. i apologize for not asking earlier about where your head is at and thats mostly my fault cos i was really drained after that tribal ANYWAY speakin of that tribal youve probably already heard that your name was brought up there yea? i just wanted to let you know that i DID know about that and i should have told you, but i was 100% not the one pushing it. i was arguing that the people pushing it should just cave and vote ranger with me, so in the last moments it went from possibly you back onto ranger cos i convinced them to back down as of rn i told cleric that i wanted to get back into your good graces, and that while its still a bit of a task ahead of us, i think that the three a us can at least watch each others backs for a bit if all goes well Bees?: I'm not happy about it, but like, I've had enough time to get over some of the hurt from it all. And frankly today put a lot of things in perspective where like, being upset or whatever about this was just small potatoes and not worth my emotional effort. I mean, it is slightly different cuz I was never going to be coming after you but yeah I get it. Well, the best thing about ball dropping is, you can usually pick it back up again with a little bit of effort. Just ask me where my head is at in general and we'll be good my dude. Yes, I know all about it. You're the last to admit any knowledge of it and talk about it. I know, you all should have beforehand. I know some of you probably thought it might have been better to not do anything with the thought and pretend it never happened, but I appreciate that y'all didn't. I will say that the whole group as a whole I don't know I feel kindly about if y'all even entertained the possibility of blindsiding me. Individually I'm in an okay place but, I do have some concerns with it all. I'm gonna ask you a favour here. Tell me shit, even if you don't think I'm going to like it. Let's talk shit out rather than just you always tell me what you think I want to and am willing to here. I wanna work with somebody who is going to actually be a partner and work towards what is best for us, rather than just tell me what they think i want and not what they really think or feel. Is that a fair request you think? Oh yeah we most definitely can. Avocado: nah its totally justified to put out there that youre hurt and got burned after what had happened. i mean if i were in your position id be kinda upset about it too. in terms of the whole group thing, i think thats also a totally valid line of thought to have and the concerns there are totally valid. not tryna take that shit away in the slightest. i get the stuff about the blindside too and to be honest theres no real good thing that i can say to counter that, i can only look forward a bit and see what to do from there you want me to be straight up with you? of course. i cant tell you EVERYTHING about my game and i feel like there still might be that bit of tension in the future, but i want you to know where my head is at. i originally started out wanting bonobo this round, but im thinking that this should probably be a dave vote to take out someone whos perceived as a leader and let individual relationships settle themselves out. i dont really have any lasting connection to him whatsoever since i met him like two rounds ago and i think that the notion of there being a 'dave group' being gone would do everyones mental state a world of good. if you dont feel like it you dont have to vote for dave or anything. i get that i might not be your favorite in the world right now. but im putting that out there as a sort of olive branch and we can see where it goes. again i wont be mad if you do your own thing Bees?: Yeah, and I appreciate you letting me feel my feelings. No, there really isn't, but an attempt nonetheless is always nice I do, yes. Even if you don't think I'll like what you have to say. I want honesty, not curated truth. But like no, I don't want your entire game, that's not it. I wouldn't ask that of anybody, even somebody I was going to the end with. I kinda figured that's what would be the play given the specific immunities that went out. I appreciate being given that option. I want to get a feel of where everything is at before I make a decision really. Cuz I'll be completely honest, this feels like the same sort of shit as led to y'alls attempted blindside and it's not quite like anything has changed. But I'm still thinking. And I am very slow and exhausted still, so it may be thinking for a while. Avocado: yeah im not gonna hold anything against you no matter which way you decide to vote, i just wanted to let you know that the ball is in your court here and shit. dave blowing up in the main tribal thread obviously means that he and i likely cant coexist if we both somehow do survive this, so its probably gotta be either me or him or we'll be in the same exact scenario next tribal i mean fwiw you DO have immunity this round so its not as if youre gonna be blindsided. idk whatever you do theres gonna be no hard feelings on my end whether im jury or i survive. its the least i could do after youre willing to let my dumb ass have a second chance moving forward Bees?: I appreciate that too. Like a lot. And I know that, which is why I'm not making any sort of promises anywhere. I'm giving this a hard long think, cuz I think this round shapes the future of this merge. I don't think he's wrong about the fact that there's a lot of narratives being tossed around which are bullshit, but like, idk if it really matters or where they've originated. And yes, that I know. Yep, I am very happy to be sitting here with immunity. It's really nice. Yeah, I figure you look at whatever I choose as playing the game, as well as like, considering previous it's a little justified, no? Avocado: YO i just woke up cos last night was hell for me and im deciding to take it chill for the day since its another one of THOSE contests but. i appreciate that you were open with me and ended up votin dave and if theres anything i can do to make it up to you in here lemme know. im sorry for leaping to assumptions with the whole dave thing and if possible id like us to just put that water under the bridge Bees?: Hey I get that, you doin okay today? But of course. Look, it was Dave's time. It didn't matter if he wasn't doing the things people thought he was, that perception was never going to fade, so it was just time. You don't owe me for anything. You also had an idol dude, you were safe no matter what. And I accept your apology. Avocado: okay im sorry for not getting back to you again. yesterday was not a very Okay day for me since im like 90% sure i have a fever and almost threw up at several points BUT after a good nights sleep i think thats dimmed down a bit. still i think that this is an important round to talk through either way and we SHOULD talk through it because i dont want this situation to remain for the rest of the game ok so. ive got a quick question. do you want to hash shit out here and talk about how we're going to move forward? because i know that weve been at each others throats here and in the past and i KIND OF dont want that to continue for semi-obvious reasons. right now i know the perception is that 'the quartet' is almighty, tight, and is going to move forward and win together, but i also dont subscribe to that especially since i dont entirely feel close to them myself. after i booted out ranger who they were counting on me tryna bring back ive gotten the feeling that im at the bottom of that group which has kinda left me up the creek without a paddle. so im LITERALLY willing to do anything you want here and i aint just saying that. i want us to get back together and rock shit Bees?: I'm sorry you're sick That's gotta suck. Take care of yourself, yeah? I think we should. Are we at each other's throats? That's not the impression I have. So is there more going on that i don't know about? That is definitely the impression, yes. Are you saying it's not? Did they all say they were counting on you to bring him back? Sure, how would you propose that we do that, then? You know I am always willing to talk things out. Bard Bard: Sorry to respond so late! I got a little caught up with ~date night~. This will likely happy again on Sunday! Okay so game stuff lets go. I think the idea was that Dave would be a big challenge threat come merge and that wouls put him front and center. I think theres truth to that still. But droids and avo became increasingly paranoid that Dave was a master social manipulator (im being exageratory for effect!) and everyone dave had touched essentially was a close ally. Now i was generally following their lead and putting my trust in but i dont think i understood exactly how that line of logic got down that far. I mentioned that pm scandal which i dont know much about but essentially this: way back on the tribes before the shipwreck, apparently T/H received a PM from Dave that was meant for someone else and the PM indicated an alliance with you (da bees) and that he wanted to get t/h out. i dont know the details of the pm or if it was an actual thing, it really hadnt been affecting me until the other night. so bring us to tc night, up until probably an hour before tc ended it was just gonna be ranger going no big deal but then boom droids suggests a "big move". instead of going after dave they wanted a train on you since dave would still be a big challenge threat target in the game. how and why it was decided to be you i have no idea. ever since maroon, i was under the impression that we could all work together come merge. well apparently my impression was wrong according to them and here we are. so yeah, now i feel a touch stuck because i was essentially wrapped into a plan to vote you without consultation beforehand and ive got the impression that im expected to just follow along (i dont mean to sound like im wanting pity, just maybe a bit frustrated in the game, which im sure you are more than feeling atm). as for why havent we talked much game? well admittedly i didnt know where you stood plus irl has also been kicking my butt and i was trying to rely on what i was hearing fron the droids. i feel that they may have too rigid a view on whats actually going on, and its also about time i venture off and figure things out for myself. i dont see you as an obstacle either! but the events of the other night have created something for us to talk through and figure out. so hell yeah i wanna talk game and come together again here. i cant speak to why people made the choices they did the other night, i can only speak for myself. and i dont wanna be at odds. I think that others are pushing the idea that there are two sides to the game, but thats just not actually the case. we all have our own agendas and paths and plans and all that wild stuff. anyways im probably rambling a bit much here. ive never had a qualm with you and I don't want to vote you. i want to work with you and hopefully get a better idea of the landscape of the game. Regardless of immunity, I dont intend to vote you or even consider it (this round and beyond). ive found myself oddly getting closer to people like rey and grogu since merge hit. neither are relationships i expected but theyve also seemed like theyre not stuck to a rigid idea of where people stand. I hope you and your family are getting through the emergency okay. I have faith that you can handle it. talk to you soon, bees. Bees?: I'm gonna table like... most of this shit til tomorrow if that's chill. I think I just wanna chill with friends if I can a bit tonight. Just do the fluff shit for a little, and regroup tomorrow. It was a non-covid related medical scare, and that's about all I can say that isn't super ID relevant. But like, everything's fine and it's all good. Just like.. long-ass day. Bard: oy we will talk soon! i hope you find some good relaxation tonight. it seems like today was super stressful for you. im cookin and waiting for results! i might not be super active this evening anyways. i tend to be here more the day of the tc cuz schedules and work and sleep and what not Bees?: Well, ngl, I think it's a booze night. That brand of day. Whatcha cooking? Anything fun? Bard: i sure am making butter chicken! this is the comfort food i needed tonight after these results! oh gosh maybe it is indeed a drinking night. Bees?: What is butter chicken? I don't know that I'm familiar. Woo me with food. Tribe drinks y/y? Bard: oh butter chicken is not what it sounds! first you want to make a really fine tomato puree with some onions and youre gonna spice that with garam masala, tumeric, corriander, garlic ginger and probably something a bit spicy (or you can go not spicy!). the chicken is marinated in a spice and yoghurt blend. the chicken gets diced into bite size pieces (not too small though!). then thats fried on a pan or on a grill and finished in the sauce. the sauce will have some more yoghurt mix added to it. then its usually served with rice and naan bread (its like a soft garlic flatbread its so good) tribe drinks! ive chosen vodka and orange juice. i wish i had somethibg lighter but the stocks are low Bees?: Oh oh fuck, I should have been sitting before reading that PM. That sounds amazing, ugh. I hope you enjoy it cuz man, it sounds delish. Hard cider is the drink of choice over here. Bard: it is almost done. and then i guess i gotta pm people about the game but straight up thay shit stresses me out. any excuse to not is great hard cider right yes the drink of choice we have talked about this! i should see if my partner has any... do you think i should ask or just go for it? Bees?: very exciting. you shove that food into your face and enjoy!! I feel that. I'm kinda requesting chill chats for a while. Oh well it's more it's what is in my house. Ideal drink choice is whiskey or anything fruity. You should probably ask. But be like "hey some bees on the internet said I should drink this. I'm so sorry, i can't say no." Bard: absolutely enjoying. but i may have made it too spicy. this is not the first time ive done this to a food in the last week and im thinking i need to really sit and think about my life choices. now how do you take your whiskey? do you accept scotch? i sure have a few of those. Bees?: Burning off my mouth for tasty sounds good. Spicy is fine though, no? I've found I really have a taste for it lately. And not nearly enough of it. In a glass? I'm not really picky. I've had it with ice, I've had it just chilled, I've had it room temperature. I just like how smooth and warm it is. It's one of the few drinks that being able to taste the alcohol isn't a bad thing. I am unfamiliar with scotch actually, sell me on it, but also I will try anyways. Bard: oh scotch is very similar to whiskey. a bit on the smokier end of things but its made in a similar fashion. scotch is technically just scottish whiskey! if you like complex flavors and aromas then scotch is basically down to business (beesiness) goodness oh dont get me wrong i love spicy! but this is chug milk to dull the pain spicy. I prefer a "i can really feel it but im not struggling" Bees?: ...I'm in. The smokiness is my favourite part! I do. I'm a bit more about drinks that have flavours to the point they feel like textures. Those are my favourite. Beesiness shouldn't have made me laugh that hard, god has it been a day. That is also okay. That's what milk is for. Or like, just a bowl of yogurt you shovel in your mouth too. It's fine. Bard: awesome. ive got 3 scotches here. the first id show you is the one above! its got a cherry wood smoked flavour with hints of vanilla with a rich and smooth body. my favourite scotch to sip for hours well everyone wants to get down to beesiness but what if we wanna just drink bourbon (bardbon!). yeah any which way it'll be ok. maybe even a bowl of cereal just to make sure ur getting in the daily fibre Bees?: Oh, that looks amazing. Thank you for sharing. Mm, yes please. That sounds incredibly ideal. Haha, maybe we can drink bardbon AND do some beesiness? Sounds doable. Going from spicy to cereal sounds like a choice, I'm not sure if it's one I would make but, it's definitely up there. Bard: oh its extra ideal. so extra i have a hangover after a few fingers of scotch last night. but i went for a bowmore 10 year instead. im think you got a date there bud. the Bardbon Beesiness Conference is UNDER WAY. We could even open a practice "BBC Inc." No way that name is taken right? cereal is sweet plus milk to coat the mouth. sweet things and fatty liquids are best for counteracting the capsaicin in the peppers!! Bees?: Oh no, hangovers are not ideal I'm so into it. Sounds like the best date, I'm very down. Nah, that name definitely is free. Why would anyone take it from us? I suppose that's fair. Milk made sense, but cereal felt odd. But Bard my friend, whatcha think is happening this round? Cuz it feels like a whole lot of tension is going down. Bard: hangovers are my own dang fault! i knew the risks of drinking on a week day at my age. idk why any would bother taking it from us. finally we can be the BBC. what do you think of making up a buncha panel shows? cereal is simply just always a good choice frankly. so. this round. i think im gonna be voting either dave or bonobo here. i dont know if it will go through or what but thats my play here. honestly i dont have much of a long term plan here, just takin a shot and prayin. what are you thinkin given that? oh boy i didnt see daves post before sendin that damn Bees?: I fucking love panel shows, I'm down. I had cereal for dinner ngl. I had half heard there was a slight Bonobo something, but it sounded like it died. It very much seems like the Dave v Avo showdown and that's interesting. I'm not really sure what I wanna do, ya know? Yeah, Dave's post is... a time. Bard: hey im out and about here but yeah its been A DAY. im dragged into it all but i guess thats not a big surprised if everyone assumes me and avo attached. something something assumptions! but yeah i dont envy your position. its a tense day. i aint gonna be upset whatever you do though. im all about the open communicay here but yeab gotta get my free after shot cookie and head home! Bees?: This round feels weirdly open for me in a way. Like I feel like I could do anything I wanted and nobody would be mad about it after what happened so I find that interesting. But yeah, I think it's a lot of assumptions going on, so we'll have to see what shakes loose. Thank you. I do not know what I am going to do. Which I know is total ass to hear an hour and a half before deadline, but I could go several ways. Enjoy your cookie! Bard: Howdy hey Bees, sorry for this late response coming in here. I slept for a whopping 12 hours and now demand chicken noodle soup to make me feel warm and loved (food is love, i will fight for this opinion). Well I appreciate you not voting for me! It seems to have been a landslide. An entertaining (and nerve-wracking) evening though. I don't think I expected those results to be honest. I hope the last hour shenanigans didn't get too in the way of your options of what to do! It's always exciting when you have that agency to choose your own path forward. Also, if you had even dropped a vote on me i wouldnt really care. i think there are a number of people in the game who think super rigidly about "oh you voted me, ur dead to me cuz you'll never work with me again" which is a farrrr too simple way to view this game. never assume others are dont have their own hopes and dreams and free will gosh damn. Anyways! SUre as crap enjoyed that cookie. then got home, saw results, watched a TERRIBLE nic cage movie (its a five nights at freddys rip off ...yes seriously..) and then passed THE EFF out. no idea if there was fallout from everything. how's the new day for ya, bees? does it feel like a whole new world what the fuck it ditched a line and made the bottom italicized. i dont understand proboards. bbcode confuses me. i quit Bees?: Hey, it's okay friend Was sleep nice? I feel you on about soup and food. You'll get no fight from me. Well Dave knew Avo had the idol somehow, so he was looking for a last-minute switch and suggested you. And I said no. Straight up told him I would not vote for you. Last PM we had actually. As much as I don't think some of Dave's points were right, he was being slandered by a lot of shit that wasn't happening, I do think it was his time to go. Because it didn't matter if they were true, being associated with him had already screwed some people over enough times that it's just not worth it. Having him in the game stagnated a lot of shit. Yeah, I figured that. Sometimes you do what you gotta do in a round, right? But I didn't think I had to do that. I agree though that never forgiving somebody for a vote on you is a short-sighted way to play. And yep, everybody is always playing their own game, and sometimes your goals won't align, but often they can and will so leaving those opportunities open seems smartest to me. Oh god, what's the name of the movie? I love terrible Nic Cage acting. As far as I can tell there was very little fallout. It does feel a lot more free. you? Bard: sleep was GREAT and comfy. woke up with splitting headache (apparently pretty common to feel flue symptoms for a day or two after vaccine). and hell yes on soup and food. do you do much cooking? i love to cook whenever i get the time. I dont know much about the slandering. what i said in the thread was how i felt and i told him pretty straight up that that past few rounds we hadnt been communicating and given the ranger vote, it felt like the obvious place to go for me. like, there were talks about "dave challenge beast" and shit AGES ago, but even on that single round tribe we were gettin along. i think some people (ok by some i mean avo) think they need to be cockier about things and create firm stances. yall its a game, we're all friends we just kinda gotta do the vote out thing as the literal nature of the game?? no idea where things are right now! I didnt get back to most people from last night so im sendin out PMs and hopin to gauge a feel. with dave's posts and then subsequent push, im sure it'll will be a bit tense but im sure it'll get worked through. plus this merge feels SUPER dynamic, like things might shift every single round here. at least thats how i think it should be. ive been in too many games where its a staunch group runnin things down. i absolutely hate the idea of that. The movie is Willy's Wonderland! Its somewhat low budget, the animation is terrible, the animatronics look like crap, but it's 100% cheesy terrible greatness. and if you want REALLY bad nic cage acting, this is the movie for it. theres a reason for that too but i cant say. hell yeah! i know if was probably a bit rough coming into the last round with all that last second vote drama, but im hype to hear you feel more free in the game. frankly, grogu mentioned to me that people were telling him he didnt have a shot to get to the end and that he couldnt win. stuff like that where theyre forcing someone else to feel that they dont have a shot and limiting that freedom doesnt sit real cool with me. we're trying to have fun, not get berated. Bees?: Headaches are bad, I'd vote against them. I like the idea of cooking more than I have the ability to do so. I bake though! That one I can manage really well. This week I've been sort of eating an apple cake, it has walnuts in it and it's just really good. Oh no, I know that. I meant what Dave said was being said about him and all. Those don't sound like your words or worries. Yep, I remember the Dave Challenge Beast talk, but like he's no better or worse than other people I think. I do know what you mean about Avo. He likes his lines it would seem. A more binary thinker. I have no idea either. It was pretty quiet most of today and I think we all just assumed it would end up being a lot longer of a round so we all just chilled out which uh lol, bad choice. I agree about the dynamic feel of the round though, it's very flexible. I like flexible. Yep, same. I hate when it's like that, especially when somebody is trying to do other things but the group is like "No, this is the game we're playing " Oh wonderful. Will have to check it out. I do love horrible things. Yeah a little. I heard about that too, sounded like it was largely coming from Avo. I'm not really into that whole idea either, but alas I do not know that we're going to be able to do anything about that. Bard: Hello bees?! Im sorry for this short response but ive sent 2 pms and my partner is already annoyed at me for being on my phone "on this special day of days" he says. I hate to cut to the chase. that this not how i like to communicate but i have no idea how much i can get on today. this is a touch of a leap of faith but im gonna place my vote on the droids. Like we said, its a dynamic game with a lot of flexibility and id like to avoid the group mentality. I dont even know if this is possible but id like to explore something with you and Maggie for the future. i dont actually know where you two sit or even if your friendly in the game hence the whole leap of faith thing but im shovin it out there. As another note, i think the view is that the large group is scrambling, and this may be true! I feel somewhat calm over the whole thing. Im not going to try and convince you that im a better person to go forward with, i think you have tons of agency to make that decision for you! I will try to check in later but i genuinely do not know how much i cant get on today and my assumption is little. Bees?: Hi Bard! Tell your partner sorry, and we love him. Okay, i think that's probably a safe bet cuz votes are likely to head that way. And yes, it's dynamic, screw groups. Oh hm, I'm not super close with Maggie, we're at least on speaking terms though. I didn't know you were close to Maggie. You are probably right! it does feel like a lot of scrambling is happening, but eh. I also appreciate that nonetheless. Alright, if you can't, I hope you have a good Valentine's <3 Bard: he understands (he is actually annoyed but i take this as understanding). im coming up on my 30 min survivor time limit though!! maggie and i arent super close but dave leaving has opened up conversation more. with the past couple of rounds having ranger go (srsly he was like my long term plan this really threw things for me!!) and then the push by the droids on you and how avo has been acting (pressuring people saying they can't win and imo he was being sarcastic at people getting voted out) i feel like things are stuck and weird. so this is my hail mary pass, throw caution to the wind idea. im also super out of the loop today, so im probably missing a wild amount of context. ive heard possibilities of split votes on me and theres not much i can do about that. i am fairly certain that theres no idols coming out with the pieces scattered about. but with avo having immunity and the callout from last round i guess i should expect to take some heat! imma hold my ass tight and pray for the best. i hope your valentines is wonderful and full of love from any source whether it be romantic or platonic. Bees?: Lol bless. At least he's nice. Ah, that makes sense. Droids and Avo have been incredibly odd lately and idk how I feel about them, I just don't. Things are very weird and also stagnant, and that makes sense. You and me both, I always feel like I'm playing catch up. Yeah I think it's a possibility, not completely sure how it shakes out though. This might not be a super straightforward round after all. Aww thank you. It's... not really been great actually. I was supposed to have plans but they are being delayed. But hopefully they'll happen later, we'll see. I hope yours is amazing, cuz you deserve it. Bard: oy damn this seems like its not shaking out so great for me. well crud. regardless! im not trying to fuck around or spread shit. hell i havent been around today enough to do that. whatever way you go here, no hard feelings, bees. i hope today goes better. that sounds like its been frustrating for you. Have the best night you can and I will catch you on the flip side. Bees?: Yeah I know, you're not a muckraker, that ain't your scene. And I appreciate that. We'll have to see what shakes out overall. Thanks, I'm hoping. I'm uh delaying them til after results tbh cuz nah. I hope you do as well, and definitely like hug that boy. He's being pretty patient. Bard: Oh yes i ended up pushing things a bit which was a bit dumb on my end. I was still half focused on the irl events but damn it was hard to not be glued to this. hes never gonna let me play again after this (he would but i felt a bit bad. this game does weird things to us!!) But yes anyways, i hope the rest of the night went well! goodness knows we probably both needed a bit of relief. i cant say im entirely sure what took place but im not highly concerned (okay well maybe im a touch concerned for my personal longevity and the possibility of isolation but who doesnt have an existential crisis like this on the daily in this day and age??) Bees?: Oof. Poor guy. I completely get it, it is very hard to focus on anything not game. I put off work a lot to focus on TCs >.> It does do weird things! Tell him he is the best and we love him and we're sorry. It did, yeah. Got to watch The Old Guard which was nice. It's all part of that Maroon 4 narrative dude. When y'all were so quick to drop Droids, i think it kinda panicked some people. Cuz like letting Droids go was very much clearly not going to change anything, huh? And like, I think you're somebody who is just very well-liked and that also was worrisome. Bard: so i actually have never discussed dropping the droids to avo and t/h. well okay not totally true, late in the day yesterday i talked to them about being willing to vote droids once i heard my name was on the block. maybe harder to believe but i genuinely believed that things were gonna be either me or the droids pretty early on in the tc. I didnt expect that to coincide with the other two going down the same route. When I sent that pm saying my general future plan, that was my actual plan. I have wanted to branch out for half a game now and not be lumped under others. Avo feels increasingly unstable. He isnt someone that I want to throw under the bus and i dont think i could vote against him. but i also recognize that oh so many people have indicated frustration with him. I hand some shit communication last round. I panicked a touch near the start and then didnt have any time to accomplish things yesteday. Oh i remind my partner that hes the best daily and the regards are well sent. ive also put off some work to focus on TCs and its gotten to a point where i need to not do that. i dont think its impacted my work quality but i got behind a bit last week and i dont want that happening any more. We got to watch Stand By Me though and it was nice.
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 17, 2021 23:51:45 GMT
Cleric Cleric: Well, I did! Bees?: I'm so happy to see you again, you have no idea! It's been a long ass day, don't you dare tell anyone else, but I legit burst into tears that it was you. One good thing for today. Cleric: I'm happy too! Now I can continue my cat-on-keyboard tsnumai. You were legit the best person I talked to that day, so I'm looking forward to this! Bees?: Aww, really? That's really really nice to hear. More cats? :3 Cleric: Bees?: yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees. I've missed you. How was deadland? What did you have to do to stay alive this time? Was it the Mole? Cleric: It was a bunch of sudden death challenges. It was really anxiety ridden. I'm so glad to be out of that fucking hole. Bees?: Oh god, that sounds horrible. I am so glad you're out too. That sounds like a nightmare. Now I'd love to catch up more, but it has been a horribly long day. So I need to go not look at a screen for a while. But I will catch up with you very soon <3 Cleric: Sounds good Bees, i'm getting such a rush right. WOOOO I can't believe I made it out a second time. right now* Bees?: I'm so incredibly stoked that you're out again. I'd really like to do some things with you, so like, definitely hit me up with some of your thoughts and feels when we're both here so we can like plan and shit, yeah? Cleric: Yeah, so basically lemme tell you how it went lmao. cause it's great. Avocado went into exile, and got to choose who went home. It was between Me, Ranger, and Darth Plageus. The person who Avo chooses, can also choose to drag (eliminate) someone with them. Avocado struck a mutual deal with Ranger, where he wanted to pick who comes home with him, so Ranger agreed. Avo chose Darth, but Ranger dragged Darth. So here I am, Avo's second choice lmao. Bees?: Lol yep. I did hear about that. I know that like since Ranger was a somebody I didn't feel strongly about and tried to get rid of, booting him was an attempt by Avo to make up for the fact that last round there was almost an attempt to blindside me instead of let Ranger go. At least, this is what Avo has told me. You were back there, I'm sure you saw what was actually said in the forum and all whether or not that is true. But just saying. You're walking into a bit of a mess my friend. There's a group who seem to think that the game is broken up into sides, which it really isn't, and then there's one who just happen to be not part of that. I do not know how thoroughly any group is tight, but it kinda seems like the assumed lines are Droids/Avo/TH/Bard and then Maggie/Dave/Bonobo and there's an assumption I'm more in the Dave camp which is why the attempt to make a move was a thing. But Grogu and I are more like not actually affiliated strongly with any group and just sorta like people. I'm personally feeling a little burned by what happened, and not really wanting to be affiliated with anybody, but trying to clear some stuff up. SO I have no idea what is actually happening voteswise, but i would be shocked if there isn't a case to be made for voting Dave by what I'm mentally calling the Maroon 4. I'm sure there will be a counter, but I do not know what it would be. The three of us who are immune could actually try to make something specific happen if we wanted to. Cleric: Yeah, he basically gave Ranger no choice and was like "I wanted you to figure that out for your own but I think it's better to be forward with you". Of course Ranger fucking voted against his wish lmfao. Also yeah, people love to assume alliances when people vote with each other. I'm kinda super guilty of that. I assumed you were in Dave's alliance just cause of the tribals. I think tonight is gonna be a bullshit-fest of advantages though. Everyone got a ~secret~ box with ~something~ inside. There's gonna be like, triple votes tonight. Lmao, I guess the immune bois are their own faction. Bees?: Lol, bless him. I don't blame him being salty and saying fuck that. Good on Ranger tbh. I kinda prefer that it's you though. You don't carry the same baggage that Tragedy has. Yuuuup. Sometimes people just agree that somebody needs voted out, and it's an individual basis, not some nefarious group. Oh, that's actually kinda fair. I like the guy, but I'm definitely not his righthand bees. And I agree with you on that, I expect shit to come flying out. It'll be interesting. I'm honestly fine with however it plays out, cuz like, I'm immune, you're immune, Grogu's immune, together we could be the start of something great and interesting and new. Cleric: Ooh, baggage? I didn't hear about any baggage. Tell me this baggage. And uh, do you have anything in mind for this change? I can get Avo voting with us. Bees?: Oh just Tragedy was involved with some people, and he got brutally blindsided. So he would have come back in salty I imagine. That's about it. Oh I know we could get Avo voting with us. But uh, I'll be real honest with you. While I am happy he made the gesture of setting it up so you could come back, and he didn't need to do that and I kind of respect him doing it, I gotta say I do not know how much I trust him. That being said, I don't know if I want to vote him. I do think that the main wagons currently are Dave and Avo. Cleric: Yeah, he seemed super salty. Darth and Lindsey both. Must have been active players that got cut down. Yeah, it was nice of him, I do think I become dead meat after next TC, so i'm not stanning him for too long. I think i'm just voting Dave here, unless you have a better counter-wagon. Bees?: Yeah definitely. Poor guy. Sorry not sorry. Lindsay got cut down as being connected to Dave and Maggie as well as not really being around much, so hmm. Yeah, you're probably in a tough spot, but we'll see what we can do, yeah? I don't have a good counter-wagon, cuz Dave going opens up the game in a lot of ways out of the there are sides narratives. If he doesn't go okay fine, if he does also fine. Cleric: Yeah... I might have made a mistake going for Dave here. I might have to try and join the side I just crumbled. Bees?: Eh, I think most people are going Dave. But I don't think Dave was going to protect you. Like dude, part of why people were so gungho about you leaving is because they thought Dave was scooping you up as a pocketvote. So like, you also got screwed by Dave associations which may or may not have been true. I don't think this game is about sides, or at least, I don't intend to let it sit there anyways. I'd like to do other more widespread things. I wanna work with the people I *like* thanks. And I do like you Cleric: Yeah, I guess I need to stop thinking everyone has my best interest lmao. And Ay, I feel the same way. This game is too long to play with people you don't like. Dave just got memed on though, holy shit. Bees?: Haha, I mean friend, not everybody does. Like, people are playing their own games, right? So people are always going to put their plans first. Just sometimes you get to be included in them. Good! Now the question is, what do we do next? I do think that Dave had some real solid points about that solid group. They haven't split from voting together in a long while. And there are less of them than there are people not them. Just thinking out loud. Cleric: Oh yeah definitely. It's like people are trying to.... Survive (ayyy) I think we should try and see where everyone is at. Maybe go for one of Bard's lesser allies? and by "go" I mean ally lmao. Bees?: Wait, people want to survive in Survivor? I don't believe you. That sounds fake. I mean, yeah, I don't see why not? Definitely should see where people are at. Cleric: Hm, i'm thinking Droids or T&H atm? (Sorry I was afk today, something important came up. I also spent too much time having fun with the challenge lmao) I heard Droid's name passed around a lot so i'm guessing there. They also opened the most number of boxes. Bees?: Of the two I think I would so much rather do Droids. T/H was one of the first to actually tell me about the blindside that was attempted on me by Avo/Droids, and it would be a poor repayment of that to vote them out. If that makes sense? Cleric: Yeah, that makes sense. I also heard word of a Bard blindside, if you want to cut the head off the hydra. Bees?: I mean, I think the head of the hydra won immunity But I don't hate a Bard vote either. I do think maybe Bard is the better choice as I think the real duo is Bard/Avo and Droids is just also there. Idk, I also wouldn't hate the idea of vote-splitting to avoid various items. Cleric: What's uh what's vote splitting Oh ok nevermind. We need huge numbers for that though. Bees?: Haha, vote splitting is having people purposefully off vote in case of an idol or something like that. But yeah you're right, you do kinda need everybody on board. What are you hearing? I think this round might be an accidental mess and I'm trying to figure it all out. Cleric: I'm trying to see where everyone's at, and it's like I'm hearing Droids. Bees?: Haha, yeah that's survivor my dude. Welcome to the real game. It's this. I'm hearing a lot of Droids as well. Enough that that might just be what happens with no counter. Cleric: I heard people are ramping up on Bard. Idk though. Either works out for me so it's really a whatever choice. Bees?: Well, I'm going to vote for Bard, that's where I'm at. It's just, what seems right to me after weighing the options between Droids and Bard. So you do with that what you will. Cleric: I'm going Bard. You're right, this seems like the right choice. Bees?: Okay I just kinda feel like, there's more options after if that's the case. Idk. Cleric: Sorry I've been very dry recently Bee, I work a shit job on the weekend, but I'm working from home on the weekday so I'll keep up. Bees?: Hey that's alright. I'm sorry work was gross. I'm sure you will Cleric: Thank god for split voting. And thanks! Really looking forward to family day... Gonna be a fun zoom call. Bees?: Yeah, split voting is often a smart idea. I hope you enjoy your family day Cleric: Well that split vote saved everything. Damn. How you enjoying Family day? Bees?: So it would seem, yeah. Oh, Family Day isn't a thing where I'm at. You must be Canadian. It is however President's Day. It doesn't really mean much here. Are you enjoying your holiday then? Cleric: Ohh. I thought family day wasn't only Canadian, sorry. Yeah, it was a fun zoom call lmao. Also made pancakes. Tribal was stressful yesterday! Sorry I really didn't know how to approach this game again.
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 18, 2021 0:04:10 GMT
Grogu Grogu: I'm not blindsiding you either, Bees, don't worry! I think we can both agree on that overall. Honestly? Right about now would be a fantastic time to have an idol in my pocket tbh. I think things are just gonna get so fucking messy this TC... Huh. That's... A way they can go about it. Confrontational probably isn't what I would do in their situation but hey, maybe there's a secret genius behind it all. ALRIIIIGHT WOO GJ ON IMMUNITY BEES. You can sit safe and secure for a round. Breathe easy, friendo. Bees?: I'm not worried, and not just cuz I have immunity Right? It so would be. I think you're right, things are going to be chaotic. But like, I'm happy. Nah, we talked a bit more but like. It was definitely from an emotional hurt place too. I guess they thought I was tossing them aside and was going to be gunning for them. They've never been to a merge before so they haven't figured out how to deal with the stress/anxiety of it all. Idk, I think I'm going to just let it sit for a little, since well, I have that luxury. Thank you! Pro-tip, go claim that you're going to be going cart 1 the whole time and actually submit that way. Either people will have to purposefully take you out and take themselves out of the challenge and immunity, or you get an unhindered run. I've seen it work quite a lot with this challenge. But like, you can also do whatever you want. Just would love for you to also be safe here. Grogu: OOOOH not a bad strategy! Sorry for the late reply, I woke up very sick this morning. Not COVID, I don't think. Fever, chills, headache. I'm under like four blankets right now. Bees?: Hey no worries, how you feeling now? Any better? Grogu: Still fairly sick but well enough to hop on a call with friends and do some stupid virtual games tonight. I'm so mad about the pace of this game. Like, why did we have to extend it by another round??? Oh well. FWIW, I think whatever Avocado got in Box 12 is gonna be revealed at challenge deadline, so that's fun. You know, while I am away doing things. Sigh. This game, man. Also, anything fun in boxes or whatever? So far I've heard about Dave's challenge advantage (lol), and I got a half vote (wtf), and then like a few idol pieces got handed out that are part of a new idol or something. I really can't be forced to care. Either the items will get used or they won't. Bees?: Oh same, I am also less than pleased about the extra day, but at the same time with my day being such a disaster, I'm really happy I was not dealing with game panic on top of RL panic, so for once, thanks mods for your shit pace. Oh, Avo won it? I had no idea who did. I'm not really updated on anything game related. I had not heard about that. Is it like half vote if you end up at FTC or what? The fuck is it? I actually do have something partly interesting/good maybe. I picked up a Safety Without Power, but it has a limit, I can only use it on somebody else. Or like pass it to a friend and hope they are kind enough to send me away for a round or some shit. And only in the first two hours of tribal. I have not told anyone else, and I wasn't intending to yet if at all. Grogu: I'm sorry you had real life panic today That's rough. Half vote is like, I guess if there's a tie it breaks the tie? You're immune, I'm immune, but good to know about your safety without power. Someone else got something about tribes I think? I'm still getting bits of pieces of everything in right now, all I know is... I'M GLAD WE'RE BOTH IMMUNE FUCK YES DUDE Bees?: Yeaaah. But I've been chilling so like I'm a lot more okay now. Just it was rough my dude. Ah okay. It's so good. Wait, someone got tribe information? Please no. WE'RE IMMUNE HELL YEAH!! Grogu: I thought I remembered hearing that someone got an "Avoidance" advantage that was somehow related to tribes... unless they were talking about your "avoidance" advantage? Would you have told like... anyone else? Buhhh sorry for the short PMs and being generally AFK right now. Lemme catch up on PMs and get back to you cuz I kinda wanna plan with you and don't really care much about everyone else rn lol Bees?: Considering I don't have an avoidance advantage I'm real confused what's up with that. You are the only person I have told about what I have. I had an opportunity to tell somebody else but I uh haven't. I don't exactly trust anybody else atm. lol it's okay. I kinda checked out for a while here, and yes please, I would like to plan. I kinda only have been giving you the time of day today >.> Grogu: OKAY YES. Rey got an "avoidance" advantage which lets her name one person NOT to end up on a tribe with in a swap. So there's definitely a swap coming, and that changes things for this TC I think. IMO, we're going to swap at 4/4 and do a round in 4 person tribes. That's a very narrow window for us to do anything. I worry if we don't break up a big alliance or two, we're absolutely toast in those four person tribes. As a note, here are the big alliances I see currently: "Team Dave" (which is basically just a loose collection of people) with Maggie, Dave, Rey, Bonobo... you? "Maroon 4" (clever name hehehe) with Droids, Avocado, T&H, and Bard. I've been now explicitly told by multiple people that Droids put together that four person alliance back on Maroon and specifically meant to leave me/you on the bottom and out of the loop. So... what benefits us the most? What lets us weaken an alliance this round and sets us up next round to take out the right person to give us the best chance on 4/4 tribes? Bees?: Oh god why. Please, I am so done with tribes ;~; I think you're right that it does though. Probably yes. That's so garbage. Hates. Yeah that 4 were all aware of the blindside and all, and I loved T/H telling me that they knew but they had told Droid to just drop the whole idea and not talk about it. So that felt real nice. Team Dave I don't actually think is a full on alliance though. They just might be associated. But man, it's real nice to hear that we were going to be left out, that's so nice? Alright well I know Maroon 4 is going Dave, like they aren't even pretending they're not. Avo said he had started the round thinking about it being a Bonobo boot. Dave definitely wants to take a shot at one of the Maroon 4 cuz he thinks that group needs broken up. I will say that Avo did purposefully choose Ranger to be the guy to leave as an attempt to show that he's willing to try to work together since either of the returnees would be people I probably would have wanted back. So that does kinda mean a little bit of something, cuz he really didn't have to do that. Though, it also seems he didn't have too much of a choice either. So I guess the question is, what do you want to do? Cuz like look, I wanna plan with you and take this as far as we can. Grogu: Yeah I think we're headed back to TRIBELAND. I am not excited for this. I didn't realize after this elimination we'll actually be at 10? So probably 5/5, not 4/4. That doesn't make it any better but yeah! There it is! Well, to be fair to T/H... they poked me about it and were like "So uh we need you for this blindside to work and I'm not saying anything here about it but man if you decided you didn't want to do it that'd be great for me". So sounds like T/H didn't want to go along with it anyway and was in a bad spot and was kinda hoping for me to be the bad guy and say no so he didn't have to? So yeah, at least from my end, T&H weren't actually part of that blindside. I'll be honest I'm not sure what to do here. I've heard coalescing around Dave. I've asked Maggie for preferences here and haven't heard anything yet. I've been kinda soft-floating Avocado to people because like... the guy is so rude lol. He's spent the whole round telling me how I can't win cuz I'm a returnee and all this shit and that's why I should work with him bc he's on the bottom of that group and therefore if I want even a slim chance I have to bring people worse than me, yadda yadda, man what a BUZZkill that is. So like, I'm sorta down for Avocado. But I'll be straight up with you too like I wouldn't mind seeing Dave go either. I'm sick and fucking tired of people I like getting targeted because Avo/Bard/Droids paint the spectre of "OOOOOH! BIG SCARY DAVE! NEED TO STOP HIM!" So when they came to me pushing Bonobo and Maggie I was straight up like fuck this, if you want me to take a shot at Dave, you need to take a shot at Dave himself and stop making it all about "weakning" him by taking out other people. FWIW, too, Dave hasn't PMed me this TC? Like not since I gave him a heads up about what happened last round which was yesterday, and like, he hadn't even heard that you'd been targeted for a blindside yet. I dunno I'm not really feeling like targeting Bonobo or Maggie here obviously. If we're gonna take out someone in the four, I don't think it should be Bard, I like Bard. Probs not T&H either, they feel like they're on the weaker end of that group of 4? So that'd leave Avo or Droids here. But I'm still kinda waiting on Maggie to get around and... kinda seeing what your longer term plans are with Dave? Bees?: Oh yeah 5/5 sounds more likely, it's still total ass but makes sense. Yeah, I'm not annoyed with T/H really. Sounds like they weren't really in a good position no matter what and where doing their best to like "can we not do this guys? this is stupid. please do the vote that isn't dumb" but paranoia happened. I've also heard votes going that way, yep. Everybody is presenting this like "man, it would be really good to get us all back to normal if he was just... gone" which feels a whole type of way I'll be completely honest. man fuck Avo, that's some shit. I am also sick and tired of the fucking Dave narrative. And I don't know that keeping him over anybody else makes it go away. But that's gotta fucking suck for him. Cuz like, he isn't even here half the fucking time, so the assumption that he's running shit is so fucking nuts, like ugh. No, I think if anything, Maggie is the person doing the things and making it seem like it was Dave. That sounds like much more of what's happening. And yeah, I heard about Bonobo being floated, from Avo no less. He's just not in the loop for anything, his name is being used for so much shit. So like, him going honestly doesn't change things I don't think. idk man. If we're looking at the 4, I agree with your assessment completely. I don't really want it to be Droids and Avo did make an actual gesture towards making amends, but like hmmmmmmmmm. I don't know how much I trust any of that shit. If not dave, it probably does need to be one of Avo or Droids. I don't want it to be, but that is the corner where shit keeps coming from, so hmmmmm. Honestly? I don't know what my long term plans with Dave are. I like the guy and he makes me laugh a lot, but we haven't really been planning anything in a long ass time. We've just been casually coexisting, that's it. I like him being around cuz he's funny and chill, but I think I was always going to have to let him go. Cuz like, uh with the perception that he's running everything, it won't matter if he wasn't, if he sticks around too long and ever touches near the end, that's going to be the narrative anybody believes cuz people are stupid. SO, I don't really have long term plans with him. I do think keeping him gives us a vote in our corner for a little though. Where we have Avo/Droids who have no problems having our names in their mouths. Grogu: Yeah, it sounds like T/H were in the same position I was... only, kinda more difficult, because they were in an "official" alliance with them, so saying no has way more negative impact. I didn't mind being the bad guy for him last round bc he didn't want you go and I didn't either. Lol "Fuck Avo" maybe I'll get that tattooed on my forehead at the end of this game. It's insane that people are so obsessed with Dave but at this point it's like... if people do think that about him, I don't want him at the end, because that's a self-fulfilling prophecy. People speak about him in hushed whispers long enough, it's gonna become true, and then that narrative becomes what we have to beat at the end. if people are lying then like... I'm sick of it. You know how I play, you know I want to be straight up with people, so these whispers and rumors about Dave running the game are just too much. Either way I dunno. I'm sick of it. Well if you don't want Droids and I don't want Bard and T&H is just like a weak kinda lackey or whatever, then it would seem like Avocado would be the best target if we're not gonna go for Dave. But yeah, I'm hearing you and you're now saying the same thing I said above, holy shit. LIke almost verbatim lol. If Dave stays and the narrative sticks, that's it, that's the game, pack it up. Avo would absolutely sell us down shit river without a paddle but I also think he won't have his boogeyman anymore if Dave's gone? it's a tough call, I'm really torn here Bees?: Yeah, they were in a much rougher spot, so I don't really blame them for it all. I appreciate not leaving really do. Hahaha. Honestly, I have a couple confessionals that are like reminders to myself that if stupid shit is happening it's probably coming from Avo. And to like not forget that like some people tend to do and they leave a person who keeps fucking with them rather than remember that they've been a shitto. I don't get it. But it makes for a good smokescreen, right? And yep. I do know how you play at this point, and yeah it's a lot of shit so mm I think it might be smarted to just be done with it. Droids is the one I'd feel worst about I guess. T/H I think is more doing what keeps their name out of people's mouths, and that's good enough for me. Haha, your Jedi Mind Tricks are working I'm also really torn too. I do kinda think it opens up the game more where the narrative is different if Dave isn't here. Which is really unfair to him but like, what can you do? Avo would yes, but I think in some way last round we kinda learned that it would be a lot harder for him to do it. Hm, we might end up being the new big bad without Dave, just a thought. Grogu: Avo just... always feels like when he's talking to me that he has a second motivation behind it. I can't get a handle on it and I'm not the only person who has said they feel a little slimy talking to him? Is that the word I'm looking for, slimy? IDK how to really describe it! Someone else described it well long ago but I've lost it to the annals of time now. Droids would feel worse, yeah, although, you would be justified and I wouldn't think less of you after Droids tried to clap you last round. But gun to my head, I'd prefer if Droids stays too, along with Bard. And I don't think T&H is the big play people wanna make this round, like eliminating T&H does what exactly??? They don't have any sway I think? So yeah. It's possible we become the new big bad without Dave. I actually think it's way more likely that Droids is still the centerpiece of everything if Dave goes. I think we'll see more focus on Maggie and like, Bard maybe? Maybe Avocado too? IDK, nobody's even hinting ab you to me, and people are straight up telling me to my face how I'm a dumb returnee who isn't a threat. But I've seen people laying the groundwork to setup for a skeptical look later at Maggie, Bard, Avo, etc. Bees?: He does, right? Like talking to him I feel like he's going to tell me at any second that I'm just a dumb bunch of bees who doesn't really know how Survivor works and I need to just let the big boys play. Avocado is a good choice for him cuz like, he comes across the way avocado tastes. Without seasoning, it's just aggressively green and gloopy and sadness in your mouth. Looks better than the experience is. Oh I know I would be. They know I would be. Hell I could easily say fuck all those and who could really blame me, right? But yeah like, I feel like there's a lot more flexibility and like, I'd rather the devil I know? Who at least has some remorse and probably knows they get one forgiveness, that's it. I mean if they'd wanna do T/H, they're gonna have to do it without me. I'm not about it. You're probably not wrong, I think it doesn't matter if Dave goes, people are going to be looking at Avo and Droids because they tried some shit and it was not approved shit. Omg, Grogu, are you being negged? And yes, I've seen that too. And I don't hate it. Grogu: Yeahhhh that's basically correct with how I feel lol. Wait. You don't like Avocado? !?!? I thought we could get along Bees, avocado is a delicacy. Avocado the food. not the person. I see how this is confusing. Honestly the "devil you know" thing is kinda how I feel about all y'all who voted me out you know? Like yeah sure you all stabbed me but... MOST of you (I say most) showed remorse/a willingness to work together in the futuer yeah? I... I think I am being negged. That's exactly what's happening. I'm being negged by Avo to... I guess make me like him more or wnat to go to the end with him?? IDFK man Bees?: Hahahaha. I don't dislike avocado, I just like it in things. Guacamole is amazing. I just don't like avocado straight. I don't like anything straight, but hey.That's honestly super fair. Don't blame you for that one bit. You're just supposed to say yes sir and follow him and what he says, since you're just a lowly returnee. Which hurt me to say, like a lot. But anyways, how do you feel about what's going on in public? I also have a PM from Dave asking if I feel good about him publically saying the target is Avo and voting elsewhere, he was suggesting Bard which I do not love. I'm willing to follow you on whichever vote you think is smartest. We could also split where we vote on the different wagons. Avo did actually give me permission to vote for him, which feels a type of way, but like I'm tempted to do that. I also fully expect a lot of items to come out here. Grogu: Guac is great! Avocado toast, unironically, is incredible when done right. There's a local panini place that does an Avocado & Honey panini (Hey... honey... like... Bees........) and it's fucking mouth watering. Oh god I haven't even looked publicly. Is that what Dave is doing now? I uh, think that's real cute and tricky and like... hmmmmmm. Avo probably has an idol here and is going to play it on himself if he's acting like that. But it also seems really stupid to OBVIOUSLY state the target publicly lol of course we're gonna fake it? Arugh. If you wanna vote Avo, I think do it? I'm still torn between Dave and Avo. If my hunch is right and Avo has an idol it won't matter too much will it? I think we could vote both Dave & Avo and be fine here, maybe splitting is the right option bc honestly who cares? I won't be voting Bard I don't think Bees?: Oh that sounds amazing. You may have sold me. It's a time my dude. This round is hysterically hectic and I'm just over here like I spent my money well, yep. Oh Dave said he heard Avo has the prime idol, because of course he would say that. And it does seem stupid to state that, but like fuck man I don't even know. This is a messy round, and i am LOVING immunity. I don't know that I want to vote Avo, it's more, like I think maybe having you and I on different votes might not be a bad idea. At least in terms of like, making it seem like we're not some obvious pair cuz people are really against those right now for some reason. Like if Avo pulls out an idol it don't matter. And yeah, who does care? I think maybe though at least narratively, it makes more sense if I vote Dave from a "I'm trying to move past this whole mess with y'all" narrative, all while you voting Avo is like "man fuck your noise" place. Idk. I'm just thinking of a way we could maximize the potential tribes we're about to find ourselves in. Me either. A safety Droids vote though, hmmmm. Just so you know, I am voting Dave. I think it opens up the game a lot more if that's what happens, and narratively it'll help out a fair bit. If that's not who goes home I really don't care, you're immune, that's all I wanted Grogu: The round that felt so hectic wound up being unanimous on Dave, which is incredibly wild. How did Dave heard about the prime idol, I wonder? Unanimous means EVERYONE is on the same page so nobody can look at any two votes as being similar. I think we're all SUFFICIENTLY past whatever the fuck the last round was. I was out eating dinner and had to AFK for the last hour of TC so whoops. >.> Not my fault TC deadlines fall during dinner time for me. A Grogu's gotta eat yo Bees?: Haha, right? This game has been WILD. I have no idea how Dave heard about that, maybe Avo straight up told him. That sounds like his deal tbh. True enough. Like we're all on the same page of, fuck side mentality. That being said, I don't think a lot of Dave's points were incorrect. So we do need to do something about the Maroon 4. Eh, it's fine. They fall during dinner for me too, I just usually eat after. Grogu: Oh yes, I think my next order of business is to figure out a way to slim down the 4 next round. I dunno who the target is yet, we can obviously wait for that, but you and I are of a veeeeeeeery similar mindset there, my winged friend. No doubt about that. And I'm reading the tea leafs that it seems like the others in the 4 are sorta antsy to target each other anyway. They all know they can't go to the end together and need each other out pretty soon, so I expect the knives to start coming out at this TC. Bees?: Yep, it seems we're on the exact same page here. I don't know who the target will be either, but we know how their paranoia tends to go, they might provide it for us. I agree, how can they not know they have to do something else? There's only 4 of them, there's 6 other people. They have to do other shit or die. I will gladly hand them the knife if they like. Speaking of being on the same page, I do wanna like, make sure that it's clear and all, but you're who I want to go everywhere with. Just in case I hadn't actually explicitly said, I'd like to put that out there. Grogu: No I don't BEE-lieve you had said that yet, Mr. Bees. I would like to go deep with you too! I feel like I also want another returnee at the end with me so... like... yeah. If I want a fighting chance I can't be arguing against two people who were both never voted out, you know? That's just kinda where my head's at right now. So I'm thinking and strategizing and looking ahead to who I can get there with, and how, and all that good stuff. do you have any thoughts on like, a path to the end? Bees?: Haha, I thought you said puns weren't your thing. Oh, I'm very cool with that. Dunno how you feel about Cleric, but of the other returnees probably the one I prefer to stick around with. I'm more than fine to do something there. A straight path to the end, god no. Like with this game being as unpredictable as it's been, I don't know if we have more twists coming our way, so it's a little hard to plan. I do think that one of Avo or Droids should probably go out next. We could probably work with T/H for a bit as well if we wanted. Cuz I think they very much see themselves as the bottom of Maroon 4. I suppose I see options we can work with more than I do a straight plan. I don't know if that helps at all? Grogu: I have a weakness. Sometimes I make awful puns. I would be down to work something with Cleric if he's open to it. WE've talked very little honestly so far. I'm still figuring that out. That guy is... a man of few words. I agree that we could work with T&H for a bit, that much is true. Between Avo/Droids... I guess you're leaving Bard off the table then? I just think someone from the Maroon 4 needs to go here to break open the game more. The more the game gets broken open, the better it is for us long term. Bees?: Oh no, you have imperfections? D: Honestly? I don't think he has much plans with much of anybody and likely expects to just head right back out again. He really doesn't say much, that's true. Well it's not that Bard isn't on the table, it's more of the three of them, Bard is the one who I've heard the least about as a target, but that could just be a sign he should be first. He doesn't feel like someone who is all tied up in things need to be segmented sides or really actively calling things. It's entirely possible that I'm wrong here though. I'm not really fussed which of the 3 should go. And I do think the game being much more open is a lot better. Grogu: Well, Droids straight up just said they wouldn't go for either of Bard/T&H this round, so like... hmm. Maybe they aren't gonna turn on each other quite yet. I don't think that matters though. Have you heard much yet? Sorry I'm barely around rn. I'll be on more a bit later. Bees?: Maybe not. And nope. I think everybody was recovering from last round and like we all thought judging would take forever. But uh no, no it didn't. So nada yet, and I was an idiot and made plans I gotta jet off too. It's all good. I think we're all not really around. Grogu: GOOD. That's good news. I'm trying to check in as I can but gah it's hard with all this stuff going on. I don't think I'm gonna be able to take a leading role on this vote :\ Bees?: Alright, fair. I ended up crashing after my plans so I am woefully behind it would seem. Do you know what's going on? Grogu: Hey Bees! What're you hearing? Last night it was basically people debating between Droids and Bard, with the initial rumor being that Droids was floating Bonobo as a target. Right before I went to bed, I heard Droids had shifted his push to be on me or Rey in order to "take out a returnee". This was after Droids and I had what I felt like was a good conversation about things? So I'm pretty pissed about that. To be fair, Droids is outright denying that they ever said my name to anybody, but... I find it more likely Droids is panicking and throwing out any name that people will consider just to get it off of them. However, they're REFUSING to throw Bard or T&H under the bus here, meanwhile Bard and T&H are very seemingly open to voting Droids out, so... Droids is kinda killing themselves here. If they're really targeting me then obviously seeing them gone is my preference you know Bees?: Hi friend. So I'm hearing that Bard left a vote on Droids. Early in the round Rey said something about Droids shopping Bonobo. Cleric asked me if I thought vote should be one of T/H or Droids. Avo sent some kind of PM that is very empty of a lot of stuff but it has choice lines like "wanna hash stuff out instead of being at each other's throats?" which is news to me, I had no idea we were there. Bard was also a slight possibility some place. That's about what I'm hearing. Yep, okay heard some of that. Who said Droids shifted to you or Rey? Cuz if that's a thing happening, Droids didn't even shop it with me. T/H is the only one who has really talked about "ooo returnees, worry". Droids won't vote for Bard even if that means they leave, but they are saying that T/H is a bit of a problem. So that's interesting. But also like, isn't T/H on the bottom of Maroon 4 there anyways? But yes, Bard and T/H seem to have no problem to wash their hands of Droids. Grogu: Alright well that all tracks. Bard leaving a vote on Droids, yep, Rey said Droids shopping Bonobo yep. That PM from Avo is weird since I don't think you two were at odds but Avo is trying hard to pivot and turn on Droids/Bard/T&H before they turn on him I guess. Bard AND T&H both said Droids was shopping me and Rey around. I don't know why they'd shop it. I also heard the OOOH RETURNEES thing from T&H although they said "multiple other people" were the ones actually bringing up that fear (I think they were implying you there). T&H and Bard being on board offing Droids makes this simpler. Bees?: There's a weird thing with this round, like. It feels easy in a way that I'm super concerned about. Rey telling me about Bonobo sounded more that she heard that rather than Droids told her that, so hm. I didn't think so either. I forgot another choice Avo line, that he thinks he's on the bottom of that alliance. And I'm just like buddy, what? Interesting. T/H brought up the returnees thing first unprompted. I'm not actually concerned about it that way cuz I think y'all are cool. I'm getting weird T/H vibes, dunno why. It does make it kinda simpler, but I do know that Rey is worried about Droids going and there being a regrouping where things are stronger that Bard does some stuff. It's all very weird feeling, but it could be fine. Grogu: Yeah Avo came to me saying he's sunk he can't win he can't make it to the end and saying he'd be a good person for me to go to the end with because he has an awful game and nobody would vote for him. Like, what? Who is buying that shit? Well, Rey is coming to me saying you don't want Droids because "it's too easy" and are leaning towards voting bard. Is that true? I wanna be aligned with you here obviously Bees?: What. Man I don't get that guy. He thinks he's awful when it's like idk man, you're doing a lot of stuff and it's working out. I don't think anybody is buying that shit, so it's like mm no. Okay so Rey had said to me that she was worried about possibly a Bard and Maggie thing after this. Like Bard is in a good connection place and could do other things, also Bonobo would easily do Bard. It's more I'm thinking about the possibility of Bard. If Droids is what we should be doing, then that's fine. It's also, I don't exactly like that people have been using my name to try to convince other people to vote for Droids when I hadn't even said I was fully on board for it at the time, so I feel a type of way about that. I want to be completely on board with you no matter what the vote is. Grogu: Okay well straight up Droids just said they heard from multiple people that Bard was the one throwing them under the bus and now they're pissed at Bard and want to use a vote steal on Bard to send Bard home this round. So like. That might be A THING that is happening now?? I don't know. Rey wants Bard gone for sure, probably because Rey might get an idol if Bard gets eliminated. We know Rey has the piece from merge. Bees?: Yeah, I know that. I will admit I've been talking to Droids and getting their perspective. They were waiting for confirmation from you about whether or not Bard was fucking them, cuz they hadn't said anything about wanting to vote for you or Rey, so having that said about them was really pissing them off. What's this, people are claiming things are happening which might not be what anyone is actually saying AGAIN? in this game? Nooooo. I can't imagine such a thing happen, and certainly not multiple times. I also heard that they'd be willing to send Bard out. I don't hate it, Droids seems to be washing their hands of that group and that's kinda interesting. That is true. How many pieces are even left? Dave left with one, there's a third, aren't there 4 total? Grogu: Apparently Michael Cera left w/ one too. So there's only three left. Dave left, that's two left. I'm pretty sure it's just Rey vs Bard at this point and honestly I would probably prefer Rey having that idol than Bard having it lol. This feels like Maroon all over again except BOTH T&H AND BARD TOLD ME THE SAME THING ABOUT WHAT DROIDS SAID. I'm half inclined to believe Bard and T&H are telling the truth and throwing Droids under the bus but honestly? Whether Droids did that or not is completely fucking irrelevant to me at the end of the day, because Droids doesn't seem to have sway or power here. What matters to me is what helps our game long-term. Bees?: Oh interesting. Didn't know that one. I also would prefer it that way. Rey at least would use the idol in a smart not us death way I imagine. YEP, that's exactly it. Fun fact though, Maroon had T/H and Bard telling me the same thing the whole time. So I'm just like hmmmmm. They could be telling the truth, or it's the truth as far as they know it, and maybe only one of them heard it or Avo heard it, and they just already were like mm no bye Droids. Idk man, it's dumb, this is dumb, everything's dumb. Exactly, that's exactly where I'm at. Which is why I was like, well hold the phone, Droids is easy, this probably means Droids isn't pulling shit, who is and might be better to send out. So like yeah. Do I like Bard, yes. But I also think most people like Bard and he's been outside of controversy aside from public Dave, so I wouldn't hate it if he went home. And then we don't have that problem to worry about. Droids at least seems touchable where if they're a problem, we can boot them later. Grogu: That's kinda where my head is at here? Bard seems untouchable, if a shot at Bard really does materialize here I feel like we'd be fools not to try to take it you know? I'm still evaluating but if Droids is really using a vote steal on Bard that makes it basically extremely doable Bees?: Yep, exactly that. Bard is one of those that hmmmm if there's actually a shot why wouldn't we take it before we don't have a chance to again? Avo and Droids will always do things which can make them voteable. People aren't gonna forget. That's kinda where I'm at? Like longterm smart play seems to be sending Bard on his merry way. Grogu: 100% I am on board with that if we have the numbers? Me, you, Droids is 3. We need 5 yes? or 6? Bees?: We need 6, unless we're cool to cause a tie or Droids' vote steal item. Rey would be on board, wouldn't Bonobo? Not sure about Maggie or Cleric. We're at 10. Grogu: Maggie wouldn't do it. She's hard sticking on Droids so she's kind of a lost cause. Bonobo seems open to it though hasn't explicitly agreed to it yet. Cleric, yeah, haven't heard much. Bees?: Yeah, she does seem to have a preference for Droids there. It might just be a thing where we can't exactly get enough though, so hm. Cleric I worry about, cuz Bard did hear something about a possible vote split ending up on him. Now, I had used that exact phrasing at one point when I was talking to Cleric so like, I think Droids worry about being booted but then replaced by Cleric in a new 4 isn't the most unfounded. Grogu: Yep -- I think that, if I had to guess, the plan is for Droids to get booted, those three bring in Cleric as their new #4, and next round they target me or Rey to make sure you/Maggie don't have an easy "returnee in your pocket". We're like Pokemon at this point, everybody's trying to collect us. I call dibs on Squirtle though. So... that's worrisome if that's the case. I have no reason to disbelieve that Cleric/Avo would be tight especially since Avo saved him and brought him back. I hope we can peel Cleric away from Avocado, but if not, we might need to clip that. It's definitely making a Bard vote seem more logical here. Which is ugh. Bees?: Yeeep, that sounds exactly what the plan is. And I hates it. I don't like that shit at all. I don't want you in my pocket, I want you by my side, jeeeez. That's totally different. You absolute can be squirtle, you're almost the same colour too. Yep. We really don't have any reason to think anything else, and that's some trash. And yeah, we may need to boot that into the sun. So the thing is, if we can't get enough straight up votes for this, it does sound like Droids is going to give you all of their items for being truthful so that they don't go to waste. So there's.. that. Grogu: We're... you know, I was gonna make fun of you for thinking Grogu is blue, but, I looked. i can see it. My rush to judgment was unwarranted. The fuck? Droids is gonna give me their items??? wtaf. That would incentivize me not to save them here wouldn't it?? I'm. Huh. Ok. Bees?: Haha, no I said *almost* the same. Grogu is definitely green. Squirtle is definitely blue. But who the fuck would wanna be Bulbasaur? Blue is close to green, that's all. That's what they said? That if they're going out here and their items won't actually help to save them, they would rather give their things to people they like and want to do well than have them be wasted. And if you're telling the truth about Bard, it's like, a way to thank you for that? It might? Idk, they're newbies remember? Grogu: Well... Bulbasaur is second best. I know, controversial, but FUCK Charmander. Worst starter. Worst pokemon. Cute, but awful. Droids did send me a heartfelt emotionspewing PM about how they misjudged me and misjudged you and got used by Bard/Avocado all game and how if they hadn't let it happen then they wouldn't have voted me out and wouldn't have lost connection with you and all that so maybe they're just feeling emotional right now. I certainly appreciate it. For what it's worth, Bonobo just confirmed they wanna lock in Bard's name. This feels awful to boot Bard while he's AFK but also I feel awful about every vote and go beat myself up about it so it's Survivor. Gotta do it. Bees?: I usually like fire types, but I don't like Charmander either. Squirtle is best, and Bulbasaur is... fine. Charizard is the only good pokemon in the Charmander chain. Just lemme skip to him, thanks. Aww, poor thing. They're definitely getting out whatever goodbyes they can. And yeah, like, we did try to tell them that Avo was a problem but like, okay. That's something. Think Rey would do it? Also where is she? I agree it does, but like, whatcha gonna do? I think half of my vote reasonings have been like "I'm sorry to do this but *gestures at the game wildly*" Grogu: But Charmander is adorable, like me! Charizard is so uninspired. Like oh cool, it's literally just a dragon?? Great job. Seriously, I see Rey posting in public and shit but not PMing me. What the hell is going on with her? She's kinda concerning not gonna lie. That's a good point and reminder that like, I dunno. I like Bard. I will probably still like the person Bard is after the game! But I cannot go to the end with Bard and thus this is a move that has to be made at some point. Bees?: That is true, you are adorable. Haha. I just like dragons man. They fly, like me. What's not to like? That seems to be Rey's whole thing. She's not super chatty which always worries me. I don't feel I got much trust with her, not really. But like eh, whatcha gonna do? I like Bard too, and that's part of the problem. Everybody likes Bard. And that's exactly it, yep. I cannot go to the end with Bard either no matter how much I like him. I'm also sure I'll like who Bard is after this game too, but like hmm. Grogu: So I don't know what the hell Rey is doing. Rey told Droids she's still voting Droids here. She hasn't responded to me in like 12 hours. If the Bard thing is actually hapepning wouldn't Rey have to be a part of it??? Bees?: Rey would have to be part of it, yes. But guess what? The whole Bard vote as a thing? T/H heard about it somewhere and has heard that I'm apparently the main push on it. So that's fun. Did you also know I was the main push on the Droids vote at the start of the round too? Fucking christ, I hate this game a little. I have opinions and thoughts and apparently that means I'm the originator of making shit happen. Grogu: What the fuck? T&H literally just PMed me asking about the Bard push and I'm like, I mean, I'm waiting to see what other people want. Where the tittyfucking Christ did he hear that you were the one leading the vote? I'm trying to even wrap my brain around who would've told T&H that. Bees?: Rey, Cleric, or Maggie is my guess. They all know that there's potential there. So that's what's up it would seem. Nice, amazing. I fucking hate this. I also haven't heard from Avo this round, have you? I just had the one PM that I responded to and it's been radio silence, and it's been that every round this merge and it's beginning to piss me off. So am I. Like what the fuck? Grogu: But like, who would say to them that Bees was leading it? Who has something to gain from that? Actually. All of them do. So that narrows it done absolutely none. Avo JUST checked in. He is like, very very very very heavily "demanding" that we go for Droids instead of Bard because he thinks Droids hurts his game more. Which... makes me want to keep Droids. LOL. Bees?: Rey told T/H that. Or at least that's what T/H said happened. Rey just told me that she's voting for Bard but hasn't told Bard that. And I'm just like, girl, I don't know that I can believe you. Like mm. It doesn't narrow down anything at all which is like mm no thanks. Lol, you actually heard from him? I haven't heard fuckall since this morning. I'm just so clearly not part of his plans that I'm just like lol okay man, glad we've established this. Oh well in that case, I really wanna keep Droids. Grogu: Yep I'm gonna go change my vote. Avo's butthurt angry reaction to this is just making me want to keep Droids more lol. Rey did tell T&H stuff which is weird bc T&H acted surprised by it when they talked to me about it but maybe they're just ~~acting~~ Bees?: That's so fucking weird. Just so weird. So like, you're going to be on Bard yeah? Just to keep track of whatever. They were suddenly surprised by it, so like idk man. We're definitely in a really weird fucking position here. Grogu: Yes. I don't know what Rey is doing. it's sketchy as fuck. I am not moving. Bees?: I don't know what Rey is doing either, but she seems like a leaky faucet. That's the vibe I got from her. So like mm, I don't trust no more my dude. I just don't. I'm also not moving. Also, Droids said you should have stuff by now? or you will at :50 if we're not using stuff. Also Cleric said he's on Bard so like fuck man, idk what's up. Grogu: I don't know what Rey is doing either, but she seems like a leaky faucet. That's the vibe I got from her. So like mm, I don't trust no more my dude. I just don't. I'm also not moving. Also, Droids said you should have stuff by now? or you will at :50 if we're not using stuff. Also Cleric said he's on Bard so like fuck man, idk what's up. Bees?: I think so, yeah. But uh, Rey saying too much is a fucking problem. Like... nah, i like her, but she's gonna be a liability at this rate. And we can't afford that shit. Breathing, shoving chocolate in my face, it'll bE FINE. Grogu: I am going to eat pizza again because I'm trash and deserve to be miserable with pizza Yum I hate this TC so fucking much Bees?: Haha, I feel that deep in my soul. I don't even have pizza. I should probably actually eat something. Or maybe I'll just eat more apple cake cuz I'm an adult who don't need no time-regulated foods. Same. So same. Feelers crossed we're fine? Grogu: um uhhhhhhhhhh UHMMMMMMMMM Bees?: That's the mood of the round, yup. T/H and Avo switched to Maggie apparently? Cleric stayed on Droids(I think?), and Maggie was also a Droids vote. So hmmmmmmm. What do we do here do you think? Grogu: Yep obviously T&H / Avo are working to keep their Foursome together, despite appearances of it fracturing Like why wouldn't they just go on Droids if they were concerned? Anyway, I think we vote out Droids unfortunately. Maggie is clearly a target that will keep being a target. Bees?: Yep, definitely. Which frankly, is what I thought was going to happen. So at least we have that all clear out on the table. Thanks for that. I think it was like, what if there's an extra idol, and there's an off vote by Droids. Better make sure they can control who goes home. So that is hmm. I also agree. I think that's just the only call. Grogu: This means the next time Avo or T&H try to pitch us on something pragmatic we can just smile and grin and smile and laugh and nod TBH I fully expect T&H to try to target me/Rey/Cleric next round since they're the ones bringing up the whole "oh no returnees" thing. I'm telling you straight up, if you want to target a returnee, I won't be upset. But... I don't want to be at the end with Rey at this point, she has way too much sway and spread and I know that's an uphill argument for me. In a me/Cleric/Rey FTC, I think Rey beats me. In a me/Cleric/someone else TC, I think I get the "returnee sympathy" votes and it becomes an actual contest. So... if you're ever concerned about that long term, don't be. I think next round if we have the shot we gotta take out Avocado while he's weak Bees?: Hahaha. Yeah I mean like, I think we just be like "mm, no. thank you, but no." I already find the base smiley face to be slightly condescending and sarcastic so kudos to you on making it even more so. Oh yeah, 100%. I meant what I said, I wanna go everywhere with you. Which means I wanna do it *with* you, where you know, you get to have a say in who else is brought along. I do think at least one of Rey or Cleric should go as they're being particularly unreliable and leaky faucets. That being said, I do not know if that movie is the very next round. But no, I think Rey needs to be the returnee that leaves because nope, she actually has a fairly solid case, you're not wrong. I'm not concerned about that long term. I'll be honest, we've played so much together recently that I'm just, I'm not worried. Yes, I agree. The first chance we have to take Avocado out, I fully intend to. Grogu: Okay I'm gonna lay something out for you here. Droids goes, right? Okay. I think Avocado is the single greatest problem in the game for you and I right now. As evidenced by the fact that when shit hit the fan last round, Avo was the one who organized a split vote onto Maggie and told Bard to idol. If we have a shot at Avocado, we have to take it I think? Then, I think, we're left with realizing Maggie is a threat. I love Maggie. I don't want her gone. But... I will lose to her at the end of this game. Straight up. You will, too. Maggie has her hands everywhere, it's hard to argue against her. I would assume that you realize that too, yeah? You've mentioned her with me before so... Let's assume that goes according to plan. PEW, Droids gone, we're at F9. PEW, Avo gone, we're at F8. PEW, Maggie gone, we're at F7. At Final 7... it'd be 3 returnees and 4 non-returnees. At that point, you're guaranteed to not get targeted, because T&H has already been spinning up the whole "OMG WE CANNOT LET THE RETURNEES GET TO THE END" thing. As long as it's not me, I'm not gonna complain. So a returnee goes at F7. That leaves me, you, and four others at F6. Me. You. Bonobo. T&H. Bard. One of {Rey/Cleric}. To me, that's a very solid Final 6 because it leaves you n me in a pretty good position. Bard and T&H take the brunt of that F6 I think before we do. And it solidly sets us up to go to the end. SO like... this is almost the furthest I've made it in one of these games and like, it's the most comfortable I feel so far, especially with you? I feel like we have a path to the end. There are simply far too many threats above us right now and we need to keep the narrative going that way. Bees?: Oh I fully agree. Avo is a problem. T/H also implied that Avo initially wanted me to be the counter vote option and they suggested Maggie instead. Which, honestly I can believe that. But yeah that's a nonstarter. The moment there's a chance, we gotta. I like Maggie, but I think I was planning to boot her for a while now >.> Like, she's nice, but she was more Dave's friend than she was really mine? I don't mind her, but she's too charming by far. And yes, I do realize she is in fact a problem. I think you're reading the game the same way I am. I think that's the f6 we're all kinda working towards. And yes, Bard will definitely get more flak faster. And it seems a pretty solid path. Minus some item or game shenanigans, I think we have a solid shot. Aww. I was feeling the same actually. I don't know that I've felt this secure in a spot or an alliance with anybody in a long time. It wouldn't be too hard to keep the narrative going that way either. There's bigger threats than us, but also, in order to take out those threats, people need us to do it. I also don't know that we're seen as a duo either. After all, why would we be? Grogu: I honestly think T&H is a problem too. People know Avo, he's a known quantity. But it was T&H who pulled together the Maggie vote at the last second and has been flying way under the radar by pinning everything on Droids/Avo/Bard. Everyone likes Maggie, yep, that's the whole problem. She'll mop the floor with the rest of us in Final Tribal Council. I'm glad we're reading things the same way -- it is usually a good sign when allies can come to the same conclusions separately. The funny thing is everyone thinks they're being clever. Everyone's feeding me the same lines like, "Wellll you COUUUULD go to the end with MEEEEE" and pretending like they're not offering other people the same thing. I get it. Go to the end with a returnee seems like an easy win. I plan to give it a hell of a fight and surprise these people though. Bees?: Oh quite probably, yes. But they feel slightly predictable though. If they don't have anyone else to hide behind, what can they really do without either of us, right? And it's true they did pull it together last minute. But they're on our radar which should count for something. Yeah, that's basically it. Her and Bard have the same sort of problem. They're likeable, and also have played in a way that they're not just inoffensive. So nah, I like them, but I like them in a place I'm not competing with them. Yes it is It's my preferred kind of ally. Also, there's been some things we haven't agreed on, but we do tend to end up in the same place at the end. God right? Wouldn't you want to go to the end with everyone? Don't you want to be the pocket goat? That's all you can manage, didn't you know? /s The other thing I realized earlier was you're not just a returnee, you're also a replacement. So like, you got two things that it's much more remarkable when you get to the end. I'll be honest, I want the fight. Like I'm not taking you because I think I can beat easily or anything, but rather I think we're at least on par with each other, and I'd rather have an even fight that could be interesting. But also, if it does turn out I lose, at least it's to a game I respect the hell out of and can't blame anybody for voting for. That's just.. my perspective on it ya know?
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 18, 2021 0:15:20 GMT
Maggie Maggie: No it's okay we can still make this work Bees. WE CAN STILL MAKE IT WORK! How have you held yourself back from talking about space all this time? I'm impressed by the restraint! The Lindsays did not hesitate at all to tell me all about their... uh.. hobbies. Hmmm.. a solid voting bloc. Is that like Lego? Oh I also forgot! Congratulations on the immunity. At first when I realised that we weren't going to tribal council after that challenge I thought that Box 1 wasn't actually like challenge immunity but something else, and then I realised you ARE immune. Nice! I just got an extra vote. Nothing AMAZING, but not too shabby either. Bees?: But you have questionable pasta opinions =/ Haha, it's gotta be relevant to the conversation ya know? You can't just bring up space all willy-nilly, or you end up with people just thinking of you as space bees and who wants that? Yes Lindsays did sure have hobbies ._. I laughed a lot when I read this yesterday, sorry I'm just getting back to you today. Thank you! Considering all of everything, I really needed it. I'm glad it wasn't fake immunity, that would have sucked. Oh, that's really cool! I should probably actually check in on what I ended up with. I've really not been in the headspace for anything. Maggie: Damn bees. Hitting me right in the feels there. THE FEELS. Well... well... you have questionable opinions about appropriate context for conversation topics. Of course you can bring up topics such as space willy-nilly. I mean gosh! I have this pair of brown shoes that I’ve had for YEARS and are sort of falling apart if I’m honest with you yet still I wear them without replacing them. And do you know why? I sort of hope you do because I don’t! Anyway, I wish you the best with whatever shitty life stuff is going on. Take the time out that you need. <3 Bees?: Where else am I supposed to hit a lady? Anywhere else is just scandalous. You know, you're totally right. I do. I'm just horrible! Maybe I just want to...... space out my space chatter. :sunglasses: Haha, I mean, if you can still actually wear them and they're comfortable, I kind of get not throwing them out. I had a pair of sandals like that. They were really old and barely together, but they were so good for walking. Thanks. I'm doing a lot better. Just taking the day/night off from game chatter helped a lot. I'll be ready to get back to work tomorrow. Maggie: I've certainly been through a scandal or two in my time, Bees. I can handle it! And there we have it, now we are talking about old shoes that we continue to wear for completely sensible reasons! (Seriously I should have picked a better topic, but this will do). Also I just need to express that sometimes it can be so difficult to find good shoes that are good for walking and don't just break straight away and ugh, one of life's many problems. I am glad to hear you are doing better <3 I haven't heard anything concrete regarding the vote yet so I'm looking forward to another rush towards the end probably. We'll see! Bees?: Hoooooot. Haha, I mean, I don't have those shoes anymore. But I kept them until I was moving recently since there was no point in bringing them with, and I finally had a decent replacement anyways. I agree with you on that. Finding good shoes is hard. Yeah, I'm still a little worn out, but I'm okay. I have heard nothing either. I wouldn't be shocked if there's a Dave wagon though. That just seems like the default starting place for some folk. Maggie: I'm just catching up now but Dave is the name going around for me too. What are your thoughts on it? Bees?: I'm torn. Like, I like Dave, right? But I don't really like the perception that people have of Dave and the kind of vortex his existence is pulling people into. And that's not really fair to him, not really, but like, it is a bit of a thing. I did hear a possible Avo counter, or Droids. But i am unsure. I know like, I was in trouble last round just for the thought of being associated with Dave and that's just dumb, but I know that the way Survivor works unfortunately is that perception is a reality-altering drug and if things last too long they become "truth". So I'm just thinking and weighing options ya know? A lot of what happened last round didn't leave me feeling super good, I am just unsure how I want to go forward and yesterday being a disaster IRL hasn't left me much time to devote to game here today. Maggie: Yeah I completely agree with you and I'm unsure as well. The people I would be voting Dave with don't fill me with the greatest confidence long-term and so I feel there's a risk that in letting Dave go I would be giving them more power than I'm comfortable with, but as you say, if I do try and keep Dave around it ties me further to him, and I think each of us have been seen as a "sidekick" of Dave's at some point during the game. Bees?: Yeeeeep. That's exactly the problem. Like, I don't think any of the narratives surrounding him hold any water whatsoever. But yeah, we've both been painted with the Dave brush and that isn't doing us any favours. It's just weighing options and figuring out what makes the most sense. But I guess we're doing this tribal live. Maggie: I've been stuck in a really messy work situation which is not great timing but I'll let you know where I end up in the end! Still figuring things out honestly. Bees?: Bluuuh. Sorry about your work situation, that sounds sucky. I don't know if it helps, but so am I. I'm still not quite sure. Maggie: I will be voting for Dave Thomas, Founder of Wendy's Bees?: Yep, same. Maggie: Thank you for being there to talk through the round and I'm sorry for disappearing a little afterwards. I have been thinking a lot about where the game ends up going from here and now that Dave is gone I would like to do my best to prevent it from being a matter of the former "agents of Dave" being picked off. What do you reckon? Bees?: Hey of course Sounds like you got a lot going on, so I get it. Oh I fully agree. I was not happy about almost going because of being assumed to be Dave's bestie, I'm sure as hell not going to be happy about leaving now as a former bestie. Fuck that. I want something new than these Dave or not Dave sides, please? Like I'm so sick of that narrative. I reckon I'm fucking in. Maggie: Well then Bees, let us fucking do it then! Ooo that felt good. I would be interested to know what you think of the other people we were loosely connected with, Bonobo, Rey and Grogu. I am quite fond of Bonobo and Rey, and am more cautious in regards to Grogu because I’ve noticed he has more of a tendency to twist the truth slightly and not really say what he wants (which I understand because I can do that too to people that I don’t trust, but does that mean he doesn’t trust me???). Still it’s not that I don’t trust him really. Just maybe there’s more caution there. I also would love to talk about what we should do here. I’m very interested in seeing if we can make a move on the group who wanted Dave out because I worry that we (at the very least I) would get steamrolled otherwise (and as fun as that sounds, maybe another time), but yeah, what do you have in mind? Bees?: It's funny, I think I'm in a different place with a lot of those people. Rey I am unsure where we stand, but we at least talk about stuff happening, there's just not a strong connection. I think I'm a secondary connection for Bonobo cuz we also don't talk super much. Grogu though, we've repaired the problems we previously had that led to him leaving. Which truths has he twisted? I imagine he's cautious due to the whole has been voted out in a brutal round before. I'm very into making a move there, it does seem like they might be self-cannibalizing as I've heard them willing to vote for Droids. I'm very fine to vote someone in that group. Maggie: Difference of opinion is not a bad thing at all and it's why I'm glad we're talking about it. I may have been a bit OTT regarding Grogu, but most of my reservations came from the tribal council where Dave left and I think Grogu clearly wanted Dave to go but would sort of pretend otherwise to me and while I can understand that people thought I was extra close with Dave it was just a little thing that concerned me. Nothing really more than that. Just means I'm a little cautious. The self-cannibalizing story I've heard as well and while it makes me slightly nervous of some big move from them the more I hear the more it seems... to be actually happening? Would you like to vote for droids or consider a different vote? (I was thinking to vote droids but would be open to something different if you wanted) Bees?: That's very fair. I think most people assumed Dave was your one and only, so why would you support him going, right? Which is whatever. I understand being cautious, that's for sure. I think it actually is happening, a lot of them offered Droids first and seem to be behind that. Droids knows, but isn't really tossing them under the bus. Cuz like, they need actual reasons to do that, right? But I think there's equally a discussion about sending Bard out. Droids and Bard have been equally talked about as far as I can see this round. I am not sure, I know I want to vote one of them. But I am not completely sure which I want it to be if that makes sense? The Droids vote feels way too easy. Like, it's easy in a way that makes me concerned about some shenanigans and being screwed and that some people are being wound up about things which may not be what is truly happening, you know, like the last two rounds were? And having an easy target AGAIN concerns me, so the suspicious part of my brain doesn't want to just do that without looking at it critically first. Maggie: It was very frustrating to me being so inextricably tied to Dave! I completely agree with you about this whole thing feeling too easy and suspicious and I’m really not sure how to proceed from here. Like is it best to just go for droids or do something else?? I have heard people bring up bard’s name Bees?: Didn't you know he was your only bestest friend and you can't have any others? Well, I think there's a possibility of a Bard vote happening? How would you feel about that? Maggie: I would be okay with it. I have said to some people that I’d have a mild preference for droids leaving but I can see benefit either way and ultimately I’m most relieved that we are safe here! Bees?: The way I see it also, is that people aren't going to forget that they were fine to vote for Droids. It would be a vote that could happen again if need be. But also, I worry what would happen if we do an "easy" vote again. ya know? I also like that we're safe Maggie: Are droids planning to vote for bard? They’re still telling me that they think they’re being voted out Bees?: I believe they are, yeah. But they do also think they're just heading home. I think it's like they're trying something, but don't exactly expect that it'll work. Maggie: I’m sorry for needing to disappear. As much as it would seem like it I didn’t actually intend to! I had a placeholder vote on bard but I changed my vote literally last minute to droids and am so relieved I did. Gosh Bees?: Hey it's okay. Like this is wild. Good thought about changing. Maggie: I would be most appreciative if you could vote droids and not me. <3 Bees?: Oh that's not even a question Miss Maggie. The Bard vote was never about saving Droids, not really. So I'm pretty sure this will end up unanimous and you'll be perfectly fine. I wonder why you were who they chose as the off vote though. That seems like an odd choice. Maggie: I was hoping so, but a position like this is always going to be nerve-wracking I think. I did get quite the fright! Avocado told me it was because they thought it would be funny and also because they heard that I had been targeting them (I don’t actually remember doing that but idk). I think Hare is just ignoring the vote thing, but I haven’t exactly confronted them. I hope you’re valentines plans went splendidly! What did you end up doing? Bees?: Yeah, I definitely understand that. It's not a great position to be in, and I'm sorry it ended up that way. How is that funny? Like come on. You targeting Avo? I didn't even hear that. It is a curious choice. They did! I ended up watching The Old Guard with a friend. We've sorta platonically done movie nights for Valentine's the past few years. Maggie: I would be very surprised if this were a situation that was in fact your fault! And yeah, Avocado has a way with words, what can I say? Also that is such a fantastic Valentine's Day activity! Was the movie good? It sounds like a fun action-fantasy. Bees?: Hahaha, no it's not. It's the sympathy kind of sorry, ya know? I just say sorry a lot, sorry! He truly does. It's astonishing in a kind of way. Though I wouldn't know, he hasn't really talked to me in about a day or so. I almost miss his words. Almost. I thought so, yeah Like, it was accident the first time we did it. We just wanted to watch a movie, and weren't really thinking about the fact it was Valentine's at that point. And then just did it purposefully last year and this. I really enjoyed it, they were more critical of it. Look, I was there for Charlize Theron kicking ass, what can I say? It's basically a bunch of people who can't die for a mysterious reason sorta doing their thing. It's got some really good queer rep which I will never say no to. Maggie: You really do not need to be sorry about being sorry! I am sorry that you’ve felt the need to say sorry! Sorry!! It’s been a while since an Avo PM for me too, and I am in a similar place of being at that point where I almost wish he would PM me back but I’m not sure really. Honestly I think that life is at its best when you don’t even notice that Valentine’s Day is a thing. See, I was almost there, but then I realised on the 13th because an online furniture store was having V-day sales and I um proceeded to buy furniture (it was a foregone conclusion really). Ugh I was so close! So yes I approve of this Valentine’s Day arrangement you have going. I also think that with movies like this it really depends on the goal. For example, Charlize Theron kicking ass. Valid movie premise! Did she kick ass well? Yes? Excellent movie! It doesn’t need to get too much more complicated than that. Good queer rep too? 5 stars!
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 18, 2021 0:33:36 GMT
Droids Droids: Yeah I mean I guess that is true about my paranoia. Maybe it's just nervousness from not being in a merge situation before but like, in my mind the ranger vote seemed way too easy and we weren't involved in any of it. Like look at what happened to Ranger, all day he thought it was gunna be Rey. I thought that was happening to us and it was going to be one of the people we had been trusting or even us. So I guess I imagined lines where there aren't any. But I'm not trying to just be passive and get taken out you know? Like from our perspective we just had the rug totally pulled out from under us by the mods because building those tribes put a huge target on our back and we got no gain from it because the only thing that happened was that someone of no consequence was taken out on the other tribe. Everyone is apparently talking about how we are a big challenge threat. Like I know you are safe playing passive right now, but I don't think we are. Like for us it feels you, one of closest allies, was looking to work against us. Like I get that's maybe not what was happening but it really felt like that. And then we felt like sitting ducks without you. We didn't want to write your name down or not work with you, but it just felt like we had no control at all and we had to try to take some back. I get it feels like we stabbed you in the back, but we really thought you had totally turned on us and were gunna string us along for a little bit longer before cutting us and that you were taking stuff we were trying to include you on and going elsewhere with it. And I get you think we should have come talked to you and we should have, but we were hearing that is was basically you that had decided on Ranger. And so we felt like totally left out of it already. So anyway, what's done is done but we don't want to target you. I get that trust will be hard now but we never wanted to be up against you. Even if you did want to work with Dave instead of us, it's like I get it it's a game move. It was just that feeling of like, feeling like we were being led on like you weren't tight with us but wanted us to keep feeling that we were tight. -R2 Bees?: I get that. It was easy cuz it was a consensus vote my dude. It wasn't some specific plan. Like it kinda seemed like most of the people in on it just looked at who was in the game and who they were connected to least and all arrived at the same conclusion, that we could easily just be rid of this guy who is taking up space. Oh, no. Droids, I wouldn't do that to you. We've been through far too much where I at least wouldn't play that way. I am sorry, I didn't even consider how the impact of creating the tribes would make you feel like you were in danger and you didn't feel like your threat level had dropped at all. But from what I could tell, nobody was talking about you as someone that needed to go. Or if they were, they weren't talking about those things with me. I think we might have a different definition of what passively playing means, if you could elaborate? No, I wasn't looking to work against you. And I am sorry that I made you feel that way. But, all of the thoughts I've been having about game have included you in them. Okay so, if you thought that without me you were sitting ducks, then why would you vote me out? That's when you come talk to me and you tell me how you're feeling and we talk about what is making you feel that way, and how we can fix it. How does sending me out give you more control if you feel like without me you don't have any? I'm not quite sure I follow. Okay, where did you hear that I was already decided upon this? For that matter, where'd you hear I was Dave's forever bestie? Cuz my friend, it sounds like your paranoia has been allowed to fester where you feel the need to vote out somebody you actually want to do things with, and in the process of doing so, you are then reliant upon a single person or group who are only stringing you along until they can drop you. I've been played like that before, where I had people I trusted who voted out my other friends and convinced me to also vote the friends i trusted out where I was entirely reliant on them and unable to have a say in the game myself and had to basically wait until they decided I was no longer useful to them. Being in a position where you feel powerless and like you have no choice but to do something which may not even be in your own interest is something I understand very well. And it's not something I want to purposefully put anybody in, so I am sorry for my actions feeling like I did that to you, and I want to fix that. Yes what's done is done, but we're not done talking. If you want to actually fix this, then we need to keep talking about this. About what things led to this, and how to prevent it. Okay? Droids my love, siding with Dave for too long seems to be really bad for any of his friends, and I like playing this game and I like being alive in it. There was a rumour that I might be involved with him, and I almost got voted for it. Like, nah. That's stupid. I'm not leading you on, I genuinely like you and want to go far with you. Specifically you. I am unsure about that former group as a whole. Individually I am okay with the people who have come to talk to me and try to fix things, but trust will be hard with the entire group. You've come and tried to make amends and talk this through with me, and that means something to me. This is a single round, we've put in a lot of time together and I don't really want to throw all of that away for a single situation that it seems I in part caused. Droids: Sorry for the slow response and for being pissy yesterday, I think I was feeling a bit burnt out by stuff, including the game but also just other stuff. Anyway I slept on it and I'm feeling like I have some more energy today. I'm sorry we came after you, I really am. And I'm sorry that we didn't talk to you and instead trusted what we were hearing from other people instead. I am definitely hearing that we are a threat, I was kind of annoyed because I really didn't want to have to play an aggressive game and I wasn't happy when we were the ones stuck with choosing tribes. When I say passive, I'm saying like going for "easy" votes on people that could be useful numbers. Basically I'm just feeling like we are kind of second fiddle across the board. Like people are sort of pairing up and I was afraid that we were going to get pushed to the edge and there was going to be no hope of actually getting far. It wasn't really about you it was more about Ranger. Like Ranger was the second vote in a row where people who I thought could be numbers were voted out. I was just feeling like it was quickly going to become a situation where the people who were worried about Bard/Avo are outnumbering the people who were with them. Part of this is also that like I was really late to hearing that Ranger was the vote and wasn't really ok with everyone (including C3PO) just kinda going with it. I was like, why are we voting out someone who is close with our allies? It just felt like given our position we needed to be doing more, like we couldn't just sit back and let that happen. And in our mind, part of why that was happening was because you were no longer in the group of people that we were imagining with us making decisions about these early votes. Like the only reason it was you was because we thought that we needed Grogu and we thought you and Grogu weren't tight at all. Honestly I would have to check, but I think T+H, Grogu and others were feeling like you had gotten closer to Dave. But don't quote me on that because I'm not 100% sure Grogu had said that too. And you shouldn't apologize, it was our fault for not talking to you about it. But it was also like a panic, 2 hours before deadline thing when I heard everyone was just going along with Ranger. I like you too Bees, I'm sorry <3 Of course it was just a game thing, I have had a wonderful time chatting with you. Sorry again. -R2 Bees?: Today has been too long a day to really address all of this, so I'm gonna table it til like tomorrow morning or something. Would it be cool if I got to talk y'all as friends again? Cuz like, it's one of the things I've enjoyed most about you. Y'all are just pretty chill and funny and knowledgeable. Is that cool for now? Droids: Absolutely -R2 Bees?: Did at least one of us have a good day today? Droids: Honestly I have had a long week, not necessarily good or bad just busy. I think C3PO has been having a bit of a rough go of it too. Rough time of year plus covid stuff is just miserable. What was the cause of your long day? Hope things are looking up for tomorrow at least. -R2 Hey Bees! I've missed talking socially with you too! I had an interview earlier this week and I could potentially be moving in a few weeks? That has just thrown my mental state out the window!! The waiting period is the worst because either I could prepare to move or just forget about it, but right now is when all the what ifs come back! My favorite part has definitely been chatting with people and filling in my need for social interaction. Talking/thinking too much about the game often makes my head hurt haha. I fell asleep at 8 though yesterday and took a bath today. So I'm feeling pretty good! -C-3P0 Bees?: I think most people have been having long weeks. It's just the mood lately. Tell C3P0 I miss them and hope they're okay, yeah? It was a non-covid related medical scare, anything more than that gets too ID relevant. But everything is okay, it was just long and stress. Hey! Did the interview go okay? Moving sounds like a lot. No wonder you're busy. I hope it all works out just fine <3 Yeeeeep. That's my favourite part of games in general, and it's really the part I kinda need tonight ya know? Baths are great! Did you have bubble bath or anything fancy, or was just a nice luxury? Droids: Yeah I think it went well!! It's just moving super quickly compared to all the other times I've interviewed for stuff. I hope so too! Thanks for your kind wishes! I got a bath bomb from Lush and it was very pink and very nice. I've had some off brand bath bombs in the past and they just aren't as fun! Yeah I definitely get that! I miss talking non-game with a lot of people. I'm excited to get to meet everyone at the end though! You all are a cool bunch!! -C-3P0 Bees?: Aww, that's really great to hear Oh! I haven't had a bath bomb in so long. That sounds really nice. Pink and nice is the way to go. I've made bath bombs before actually. They're largely like citric acid or whatever. The ones I remember most were lilac. Nothing's stopping you from chilling out a little and doing that That is one of the highlights of everything, yes. Droids: I really thought I responded to this!! I’ve watched a couple videos on how to make bath bombs but never tried!! I’m not the most careful around chemicals and things. I’ve been intrigued about making soaps but don’t know how well that would go!! Do you have any fun weekend plans?? -C-3P0 Bees?: It's okay, this is a busy round. Which, I'm good to talk about stuff if you are. Oh goodness, are you likely to make a chemical mess if you tried? That would be kinda funny, a droid just in the middle of a mess sadly looking up at the person who walked in and saying "I was trying to make soap " I don't have Valentine's Plans exactly, but the past few I've done movies with a friend, and I think we're going to do that again. I'm not sure what movies, but that's the plan anyways. You? Speaking of this round, how about that public call out? Droids: Not too many plans! I'm not a huge valentines day person. Wow, I don't think I expected that at all. Do you think everyone is set on voting Dave? Bonobo was saying how he was excited to make a big game move by voting Dave out and Cleric seems to not want to be associated with Dave at all. Of course they could just be saying that. Dave told us up front he's voting for Avocado after like a whole day MIA. I wonder if the votes will be close? -C-3P0 Bees?: That is fair. But good chocolate? Yeah I didn't expect that kind of thing either. So it's interesting to say the least. Man, I don't know if people are set on Dave, like I've heard people on both sides of it. I don't know if votes will be close, but I expect that we might see some items come out here regardless. Droids: I am not a fan of chocolate at all! Controversial opinion, I know!! My partner's mom would always send loads of chocolate and we would have to find people to give it away to. Yeah I don't 100% trust what people are saying. I guess people don't want to be publicly attached to him at the moment. Dave got a couple items and it seems like now would be the time to use them if I were him. I really wanted that #3 envelope so I'm curious if he uses it! -C-3P0 Bees?: Ahh, I suppose that's fair. Being allergic is also an acceptable option. I can't blame people for that one. I don't trust much of anything currently either. No reason, nope, none >.> And yeah I think you're right, nobody wants to be painted with the Dave Threat brush. But items could come out and make things interesting. I'm guessing that's either another idol hint or challenge advantage. Droids: I do wonder if Dave has an idol? That hasn't really come up in discussion. I was talking to Grogu about Dave and we both agreed that it was annoying that he doesn't seem to be online too much but expects that his name won't really come up. -C-3P0 Bees?: He might, yeah. I don't really know. I think he thinks Avo has an idol though, so that's interesting. I think it's just as annoying that people think he's a huge threat when he's never online to do threat things. Like, both sides are annoying. Droids: Oh interesting. Dave told us he was voting for Avocado (and I assumed as much based on that pretty public call out), but maybe he would change his vote? I think we're going to be relieved when he's voted out just because it always seemed like he was plotting something.. but I guess he wasn't actually that close to people. I really want to apologize again for what went down last TC. My paranoia about Dave definitely got to me and I shouldn't have let if build into something that is probably not happening. -C-3P0 Bees?: He might still be voting there. All I know is this round is still messy. I can't tell you how it's going to shake out cuz like everybody is "weighing their options". When there's less of a SIDES OMG view I'll be happy. I don't think that's what this game is. I think it's much more individual relationships overall. I think everybody has been using Dave as a scapegoat for a while. So if he's gone, nobody can do that anymore. I mean, yes, you shouldn't have. But I get paranoia feedback loops. Droids: Yeah that's basically the vibe I've been getting from everyone too. I feel like sides can only get you so far in a game like. It seems like getting rid of Dave frees up Maggie and Bonobo as potential people to work with too, pretty hyped about that. The paranoia is a trip for sure. I can only imagine how bad it gets on the show. -C-3P0 Bees?: Yeaaaaah. I also feel like what I do matters a lot and I'm not really loving that pressure ._. I agree. I think you need to think about individuals, cuz like if you're all in on a larger group you can end up screwed by someone on the bottom knowing they're on the bottom and messing it all up. I don't know that either of them were all tied up in Dave, I think that's further assumptions. Oh it's probably worse cuz you're also like not having proper amount of food and sleep. Droids: Wow 10-1, I guess I'm not surprised but didn't expect this to be a pretty calm tribal. I feel like the game is going to take some exciting turns here, I hope! Yeah I'm not sure how tied up they were, but it didn't really ever feel like Bonobo wanted to work with me. Maybe now, he will respond to my messages. Yeah the amount of food they get is just insane!!! I could not do the survivor diet for even like 1 week. -C-3P0 Bees?: I think the fact that Avo had an idol is largely what protected him really, and that Dave was trying to shift it to Bard. I don't know who Bonobo is tied to, I really don't. But maybe so, we shall see. The amount of food is garbage, but I do have survival skills so I would know how to cook a lot of it. I did a lot of camping growing up. Droids: Yeah I hope that by Dave being out of the game, other people will be willing to play more! That's awesome! I've only been camping a handful of times but I don't think I could make it out there at all. What do you think the next moves are? None of the items really came out this round so I assume next TC is going to have a lot of stuff going on. -C-3P0 Bees?: I'm hoping that's the case I couldn't do the Survivor part of it, not even a little. I'm not very in shape even fro normal survival tbh. I'm really not sure what the next moves are. But I wouldn't be surprised if some sort of move towards the people Dave called out happens. But you're probably right that items will come out too. Droids: Yeah I have a lot of dietary restrictions and am overall a pretty frail person. I don't feel like putting myself in that kind of situation is wise. Yeah I wouldn't be surprised with that either. I'm trying to see what the fall out from that is. Maybe some cool items will come out in play this round. -C-3P0 Bees?: Oh well that would do it. Definitely don't make that choice. As far as I can tell there's been very little? But then again people haven't really been around super much. Are they really cool if they come out and make things weird? Idk. Droids: Haha that's true. Some of the items on Winners at War were pretty interesting. I didn't love the fire token mechanic that much in general. Despite how many items there apparently were in the underground, only one of them have come out since. I'm trying to focus on the cool and interesting aspect of things instead of going down another paranoia tunnel. Also I really loved your submission!! It definitely made those images better. -C-3P0 Hi Bees, we know it looks like it will be us and it sounds like you were pushing it. No hard feelings. We think we have some valuable info for you moving forward but we need to hear from Grogu who hasn't been on. Anyway just wanted to check in and say that. -R2 Bees?: That's true, there were some good stuffs. Fire tokens weren't super great, but it did remind me of some of the old games we've had which had the ability to buy things at various points. That's true, there could be more but we'll just have to see what comes out. That's very fair, there's lots of cool and interesting things Thank you! I am most proud of the Meme one. Though the Pine one was supposed to be ugly in that it's not great art and it's not lined up appropriately, but noooo, apparently that's not enough. What have you been hearing this round? I kinda crashed after my plans so I'm just getting back to everything. Droids: "What have you been hearing this round? I kinda crashed after my plans so I'm just getting back to everything." Are you not pushing our name? I have a quote from someone that says you are attempting to kill us. But basically we are reconsidering everything that person said to us this entire game. That's the info we want to tell you, we think it explains a lot and it's a sort of apology for going after you when you obviously were still close to us. If this is going to be a 9-1 on us that is ok, we get it. But if you actually haven't been pushing us then it's important for you to tell us because you need to know what happened on Maroon and what happened RE you and Dave. -R2 Bees?: I'm not actively pushing you, no. You are being discussed, but I'm not pushing you. You're equally in discussion with Bard. A lot of people really wanted it to be Avo, but he won immunity so it can't be. I can't say I'm defending you super much, that much is true, but I'm not pushing for you to be the elimination. I don't like words being put in my mouth. So what's happening? Droids: Look I'm just gunna say some stuff and you can do whatever you want with it. I refuse to go after Bard, this isn't an attempt to save ourselves. According to T+H: - You are trying to kill us - You were super tight with Dave and stepped in to save him when Dave sent that errant PM - T+H was also saying that Grogu was saying a bunch of stuff back on Maroon so I honestly think that was the link. What happened last night is we were talking to Rey like, hey we tried to keep you safe if you can do that for us we appreciate it. Then Rey is like why is Grogu saying you are pushing me and we were like ??? I asked Grogu about it and I think he's not sure what's going on. In telling you all this, I just hope you don't immediately go to T+H until after we are out. After we are out, do whatever you want I just don't want to deal with all that on the way out. -R2 Cleric is doing a real bad job lying to us. Pretty sure Avo, T+H, and Cleric are all together and are throwing us under the bus. I'm not 100% sure but I think that might be happening. Be careful of them. -R2 Bees?: Thank you for telling me all of that. So you're wanting to go for T/H, especially given these things, yes? But no, I'm not trying to kill you. That errant PM was so long ago I kinda forgot it happened. T/H being involved in the middle of the maroon mess is possible. Interesting. I think there's some concern about the returnees banding together and booting anybody else. I don't intend to go to T/H with it, because if it is in fact as you say, that doesn't sound good for me. But I thank you. I'm not going to make any promises about anything, I'm still figuring out what people want to do and are planning for forward. What did Cleric say? And that's odd because Cleric had asked if I thought a T/H vote was possible, so if he's with T/H that's a weird question to ask me. Droids: This isn't a push on T+H really. We feel like we are getting screwed over and want to warn you. If you and others believe it then cool, but I don't really expect you or anyone else to. That is interesting. Cleric and Avo I think are together just based on what they said before. Grogu says that he has multiple sources saying stuff that's not true so I'm just guessing it is Avo and T+H with Cleric agreeing to go with them. Maybe behind the scenes Avo and Cleric were feeling things out and T+H went to them and they all teamed up after? Dunno. -R2 Bees?: Oh, no 100% you definitely are. Like, look, you got all paranoia spun up and I think people let you, so that they could easily vote you out very soon after. Cuz everybody washed their hands of the blindside attempt. But I feel like it wasn't solely you, was it? Like, this reeks of Avo, as does every single time anything gets chaotic and weird. At this point in the round, enough people are spun up where I don't even know if you have a prayer here, and I really sorry to have to tell you that. Cleric and Avo are probably a little close solely because Avo brought Cleric back in, so we'll see what happens. Maybe. I don't know the fuck is even really going on overall, I just know as seems to be the case always, Avo is in the middle and conflicting information swirls around him. Droids: It is ok, we are new. Definitely we learned a lot haha. And jury in our first game is pretty good! We are just trying to figure out who to help on the way out. The vote on you was all about people telling us that you were in tight with Dave. So like, yeah we pushed it because we thought we needed Ranger to go up against you all, but we didn't tell Grogu until all 5 (including Ranger) had said yup we are down to do this. So you know, keep that in mind. -R2 Bees?: It's not impossible that a counter Bard vote could happen, but I get you don't want to vote there. It's not necessarily the end, just highly possible. And I am sorry for that, cuz when we were good, we were hella good. And yes, jury in your first game is amazing! AND you actually did things, not just passively made it. Clearly just help me. I get that, and that is incredibly graceful and kind of y'all. Like, y'all are rockstars, and i fully expect you to kill it your next games. Yeah, I know. It was all the whispers and shadows. Yeah, I know Grogu was the last and noped on it, cuz he told me. I did find out that they were all involved. You're probably the only of the 4 who has made up for it enough that I feel like there's much trust repaired. Just also know that you're being painted to be pushing the returnees as your actual vote targets here and actively wanting them gone. So if that isn't what you're doing, you're going to have to confront that. But also, I think you're going to have to be willing to vote for somebody you don't want to, unless you're okay gracefully heading out. Just being hella honest. Droids: We are willing to vote Bard if and only if Bard is actively going against us. The thing is that Grogu isn't saying who his source is for who is saying we are pushing returnees. If that person is Bard and Grogu tells us we will vote there, otherwise we are fine with the graceful exit, this game is really tiring. We are talking mostly with Grogu and Rey about that. Grogu is skeptical, which I get because they did the same thing to us when we voted out Grogu. We never pushed any names this TC, but are being linked to Bonobo, Rey, and Grogu. But now we just want whoever is making stuff up about us. -R2 Bees?: Well, I have a PM from Bard saying that he's taking a leap of faith and voting for you and won't be around. I understand that, this game really is a lot. I heard you were pushing Bonobo from Cleric and Rey said she had heard that too. I think Grogu's worry about you and all due to the vote out might be being agitated a bit. I have a theory and the problem is they're untouchable. But I could also be wrong. I just know during the Grogu round in particular, when I was trying to figure the fuck was going on, I talked stuff out with Bard, who instantly went to Avo who confronted me about everything to try to clear it all up. So like, Avo/Bard rumor mill has always been a thing. Droids: Well, there's kinda the difference between like Bard voting for us out of necessity and actively playing us the whole game, you know? That's what I want to know from Grogu, which one is it? Because Bard came to us and said let's be F2 and gave us an idol piece a long time ago so I don't know if it's been BS the whole time or not. Yeah I mean I'm now realizing that we screwed up big big big time all the way back then and haven't realized just how bad it was for us this whole time. I just want to know what is going on with Bard because if we got played then there is a big reason to prefer to keep us and we have the items to make it happen. But I need someone to tell me how big a role Bard is having and Grogu has been MIA for a bit. -R2 Bees?: There is, you are correct. I don't know if he's been playing you the whole game, I can't speak to that cuz I'm not the one in your shoes reading your PMs. Oh he did? I knew he had the idol piece but I didn't know he gave it away. He may have meant it legitimately at the time. I'm sorry for that realization, that always sucks. I completely understand that, yeah. Grogu said something about working in a public post, he'll be on and off. I have concerns about Bard cuz I think he's close to people I didn't even know he was, like I think he could have something with Maggie and that's a surprise to me. But I'm also hearing that my name in support of your vote is going around even to people I hadn't said I supported or was pushing it to and would have said if I was. So I'm not liking this round much. I also do not like that Spotify is trolling me AGAIN by playing Rumors by Lindsay Lohan. Droids: It's Maroon all over again haha. I'm glad the Lindsays are still in the game, if only ever so slightly. It's up to you what you want to do, but if we learn from Grogu that Bard is saying stuff that's not true about us, we have a vote steal and could make a play. I am worried you are all about to get steamrolled by a new group of 4 that includes Cleric instead of us. Obviously that group is dead to us now... But I also don't want to make it seem like we are throwing anything we can at the wall, if Bard wasn't screwing us, you are all probably fine, you just have to go after Avo/T+H/Cleric next round. And we will take our graceful exit and jury spot. -R2 Bees?: Oh it is! And the same players are still here, can't we just move one of the confusing ones off the board? Please??? Yeah I never had much Lindsay Lohan show up in my shuffle until this game started and it wasn't even intentional. Yeah, I understand that. I think I want to wait a little to hear back from Grogu and a couple other people too. Like it's quiet a bit, but not in the way the Ranger round was. Oh, well. Making a play isn't a terrible idea, but yeah. I am also worried about that. Which is why frankly, the fact your vote seems to be so easy is giving me pause. Why are your supposed allies so willing to just drop you? That kinda tells me that they got something else. Yeah, I know. If you were throwing everything you could at the wall, you'd have thrown out any time you possibly could have, even me again. Which you're not doing, so hm. Really though, y'all are a fucking champ. Like you're not giving up, but you're also not being the sort to go out with a huge mess and that's really cool. Droids: <3 you are the best Bees I promise we will learn from our mistakes this game. The people who promise you the world are probably screwing you.... Talk to Rey, talk to Maggie, talk to Grogu, and talk to Bonobo, these are the people we are pitching too. Cleric is straight up lying to us about how it will probably be Bonobo and she hasn't heard our name (???? lol). No one else has messaged us except just now we are getting obviously fake stuff from all of them. I still get that we are easy. If you think that you can get to the end without us, do it. Honestly no hard feelings at all, you owe us absolutely nothing. But you have to have to have to organize with Bonobo Maggie Rey and Grogu next vote because I promise the 4 of Bard, Avo, T+H, and Cleric will all be together still. -R2 Bees?: I tried to tell you, we're amazing But I know that. Oh do I know. Anybody who is trying to hand you the world without meeting you on common ground are the people to dump in the nearest firepit. Already am. Look, I'm the sort of player who will always compare notes and make my decisions accordingly. Does this often mean I'm overly truthful and often accidentally screw myself, yes, but I'd rather have a better sense of what is going on where and with whom. Lol what. That's *huh*. That's not great at all. Love the fakeness of it all, it's beautiful. I have learned that easy typically means somebody is being screwed. Because it means there's some sort of plan somewhere, and somebody who benefits most by the easy vote. Which is very much why I want to consider something else. However, it needs to be in that 4 and Bard is probably the one that weakens that most. That's my thought anyways. And I completely understand and agree with that. I think that's a lot of what is happening. Droids: I figured you were because we messaged Bonobo who I think wrote us off and then talked with you and Rey for a while and suddenly Bonobo wanted to chat haha. Maybe he just wasn't around but that made me think like ok maybe we are getting somewhere. Need Grogu though. Just fyi, we are putting a vote in on Bard pending something hopefully happening. But tell us if it is going to be us because we can exile someone from their side with our vote potentially to help you out. -R2 Bees?: I haven't talked to Bonobo yet today. I left a PM, but I haven't said anything. So this is definitely Rey as she mentioned Bonobo would be down for a Bard vote probably. I don't have that kind of deal with Bonobo, not really. And yes, Grogu is the key to it. He's telling me that both T/H and Bard told him you were shopping Rey and Grogu, so idk. Okay. It's very highly likely you with a lot of attention. But nothing seems sorted yet. I appreciate the offer though Droids: Yeah well like I said I'm happy to use this thing to send someone to exile to miss a vote just give us a heads up and a target that Grogu agrees with. It's kind of awkward to use, that's why it might be good to have us use it for you. Otherwise Grogu is getting it in exchange for being honest with us about Bard. -R2 Bees?: Oh wait, you have a safety without power kind of thing? or like tree stump? Interesting. That's very interesting. I misunderstood what this thing was. And yeah, will do. We're sorta comparing notes and all. And I appreciate that, thanks. Droids: To give the full details, we vote someone without immunity (including ourselves). If that person doesn't go home, they go to exile and miss the next vote. So if we go home here but vote T+H on the way you, you can still be up 4-3 next vote. Maybe I shouldn't talk about a strategy where we get voted out but you know we want blood hahaha. -R2 (This is obviously separate from the vote steal which is just a normal vote steal.) -R2 Bees?: Oh that's very interesting, and risky. But haha, yeah I get you about wanting blood. Sounds like a shit round for you here. Droids: It's the game, no hard feelings. But within the context of the game we want blood lol. Anyway we will be out for a bit. If Maggie is with Bard you might be in real trouble :/ -R2 Bees?: I think we're going to be willing to try for Bard here. We just need either 5 and your vote steal, or 6. But we can probably get 5. And yeah, we just might be. Droids: Just got back, just let us know whether to use the steal or give it to Grogu and also whether we should use the exile or pass that along. And if you just use us for 2 votes and then it's time for us to go, that will be ok, I just don't want people we like to lose because we sided with the people who lied to us by mistake. -R2 Bees?: I understand that. I think it might be smartest to use the vote steal actually, just in case anybody is deciding to lie about what they're willing to do. We only need 5 actually on board with that steal, and I think we can get that, though we can possibly get more. Better to be safe than sorry imo. The exile thing, you'll have to ask Grogu about that one. Sending someone out after isn't a terrible plan, but I am unsure which is smartest. And yeah, I understand that, I also hate when people I like get fucked cuz I was too trusting or emotional. So I getchu. Droids: If you think we have 5 it's getting used for sure haha. I just don't want to waste it if there is no hope. But if you think we are ok we will put it in right now. -R2 Bees?: Well I think there's you, me, grogu. Possibly can get Rey and Bonobo? I'm not actually sure. Maggie is a maybe. That's what I'm thinking anyways. I'm not sure if it's an okay or like if it'll be a necessary thing. It's been a bit since I've heard from some people. Droids: Maggie sounds like a no apparently. She gave us the "dunno what's going on" message 2 hours before tribal lol. I'm in contact with Bonobo and talked a lot with Rey but you know I get it might not be best for them. I really am only suggesting this because I think they will be worse off if they vote us. But obviously they know better and need to make that decision. I am worried about the optics for you all if we vote steal Bard and still go home, it looks you all were planning with us I think. -R2 Bees?: You know, that is very very true. I appreciate you considering the optics of it all actually. But yeah, it seems Maggie is a no. That probably means Rey will also be a no, dunno about Bonobo. There may not be enough. And if that does in fact turn out to be the case, I am sorry, cuz I have loved playing this game with you, the ups and the downs. You've made it fun and reminded me of a lot of what I love about playing. So definitely come chatter me post-game and all. Droids: If that's the case, at least we can say we went out swinging lol. Oh for sure, we are definitely gunna keep PMing on the main site after this hahaha. I played a bit mafia and definitely have friends from that but I feel like really socially connected to some of the people in this game, including you. Sorry you teamed up with a paranoid newbie early, but we still believe in you!! -R2 Bees?: Yes you can. And hey, not many people get that chance, right? I think there is a thing going on where next round is going to be a mess so if we can't get this vote off the ground i am made of worry. Good! You'd better!! Aww, that's great. It's one of the best parts of these imo, the social connections. The S doesn't just mean inside of game, it's a bit of a community, ya know? Hey, I love newbies, even the paranoid ones. You always make things more interesting and fun cuz you're willing to try many new things. And I like that. Droids: <3 Why did we ever leave you Bees!! We currently have no vote steal in place so if it's time to use it let us know. Otherwise we are sending it all to Grogu (because we promised it to him for the Bard info) if we get to 7:50 EST and haven't heard. -R2 Bees?: Cuz paranoia is a hell of a drug. Some people are incredibly capable and willing to use it to their advantage. I don't fully blame you for what happened, not fully. Okay, yeah, will do. Still feeling some people out. I know Bonobo is down to vote Bard, so that's 4? And that is very fair. If you need to use it, will definitely make sure you know. Droids: Yeah, Bonobo seems to think Rey is not on board, but I don't know, you probably know better. I guess it comes down to her. -R2 Bees?: I haven't heard from Rey to say she's not on board, but I also havent' heard from her to think she is on board. But pretty sure Maggie is not. So hmmmmmmmmmm. Droids: Yeah, it will be hard. Rey is talking to us and I think she is genuinely thinking about it. I think she is not sure how close she is to Maggie now. -R2 Bees?: Fuck I don't even know. But I do know that apparently someone is putting it out there that I'm the main Bard push. Remember how at the start of the round I was the main voice on your vote? I didn't know I was the main voice pushing everything. Like fucking god. Droids: Haha I think Rey went to T+H and threw you and Grogu under the bus. I'm sorry It looks like this isn't happening for us. So now the question is, do we exile someone? Grogu has it now, but he could give it back. -R2 Bees?: Yep, that's exactly what I heard. So that's real fun. I only started entertaining the idea in a serious way after Rey had concerns about Bard. So like, fuck that shit. Yeah, probably not. Idk about exiling somebody, we'll have to see. And it's true, he could. I'm thinking friend. Droids: <3 <3 <3 Up to you now, just tell us what to do. -R2 Bees?: I think save it, but like idk man. I'm not fully sure what the fuck with a lot of this so like man. Some rounds are stupid because people are stupid. We'll see how this shakes out. Droids: If we have the numbers I still need to put in the steal too. -R2 Bees?: I'm not sure if you do need to do the vote steal actually. I think there may be enough without. I'd rather save it for another round. Idk, this is streeeeess. Droids: We are realllllly worried about Cleric. Cleric says "I don't think I'm voting you" to us hahaha. Do you think we have Maggie? She hasn't said anything to us. Don't trust T+H or Avo. I would much rather use it and not have this blow up because if it does you are all dead I think. -R2 Bees?: I am also worried about Cleric, but he did say to me he was voting Bard so fuck man. So did Rey. So like fuck if i know man. I don't think we have Maggie, no. I trust Avo much less than I trust T/H. Then yeah if you think that's the best course of action, then yeah. You know what, go ahead and use it. That might just be the best insurance. Droids: Ok we are using it on Bard. -R2 Bees?: Okay. Honestly, making Bard vote himself out is making me laugh and I can't tell if that's just the stress of this round or what. Droids: Yeah I feel kinda sad about it haha. Bard is really nice. I think we are going to send a 7:59 sorry message lol. -R2 Bees?: Yeah he is, but like, whatcha gonna do? Him being likeable is a little bit of the problem, no? And that's honestly super fair. Droids: Haha yeah, that is a good thing to have in this game! I am also looking forward to not having to keep up the charade with Avo and T+H 5 minutes from now. -R2 Bees?: I mean, I always play the be honest card but I guess that doesn't always work out well, huh If somehow this doesn't work out though, know I had so much fun with you. And I hope that the next time I see you, it's not because I joined you. Like in jury. That I see you at FTC. Yeah. Good work at words Bees, you're killing it. Droids: <3 Bees?: And play these again, both of you. Y'all are great. Droids: I think we may get idoled out??? Well, see you on the flip side, no matter what flipside that may be. -C-3P0 Bees?: Oof. I did hear a rumor of that in a PM. But like, hey, if that's how you go? Like rarely are people idoled out in merge who weren't like some brand of threat, right? So y'all should be proud. Droids: I would love for that to be how this ends hahaha. -R2 Bees?: Like, it would be so dramatic. Droids: Wow, I'm not really sure what just happened there. Like I think the 2 people who switched are Avocado and T&H and I'm not sure why they would? -C-3P0 Well that sure is something. -R2 Bees?: That is wild. I don't even have any idea who the fuck voted where. I'm guessing that perhaps they were making sure you didn't have an idol too? I am unsure. Droids: Yeah I think Avocado and T&H voted Maggie and Cleric and Maggie voted us. T&H did message us about switching our vote to Maggie but we really didn't know what was happening. -C-3P0 Bees?: Maggie was on you for sure. So yeah that seems to be what happened. Bard idol'd and Avo and T/H knew about it, and switched just in case. So that's neato mosquito. I'm gonna need to like lie down for a while and I'm sure you will as well. Droids: Yeah I guess I didn't imagine this scenario.. We can definitely regroup later. No hard feelings if you decide to vote for us here. It's a whole different thing for it to be us vs Bard and us vs Maggie. -C-3P0 Bees?: I didn't either. Like yeah, you and Bard no question, I know which way I side after things. But when it's you and Maggie, that's a bit different. Droids: Yeah we totally get that and feel pretty exhausted after the way everything went down. Everything we said before remains true and it’s really up to you all to consider what’s best moving forward -C-3P0 Hey Bees, seems like it is us for sure here? It has been a lot of fun playing with you and getting to know you. We are looking forward to watching you from the jury! -R2 Bees?: I was just about to PM you actually, you were the next on my list. But yeah, I think it's a done deal here. I've had so much fun with you, and sad some parts of it didn't work out as they could have. But you were always a ray of sunshine on dismal days. I hope you bring that to the jury <3 Droids: We will be sending our energy from the jury, hoping to add just a bit of chaos. Did you hear about the mistaken vote that is why we are going home? So close haha. -R2 Bees?: Oh? What vote was that? I didn't actually. And dontchu worry, we bees will do our best. Droids: Ok well I won't say. But there should have been only 1 vote on us lol. -R2 Bees?: Oh, oof. I knew Maggie was on Bard early in the round and changed her vote later. But aside from that, I haven't heard anything else. Droids: Yeah I mean it's possible that person lied to us but with how things went down I don't think that's the case. They admitted to us they forgot to move their vote. I'm guessing they don't want that getting out though, so keep it close. We will take the name with us to the jury. But just know that the plan in theory should have worked haha. -R2 Bees?: Yeah, that's okay. I don't blame you for that. I appreciate your discretion. You've always been very good about that. And not going scorched earth on your way out is also incredibly kind and graceful. Let's just vote you Miss Congeniality of this season. Crown it. Droids: Haha what is the point, I mean everyone tried to save us, we got idoled. The only reason we felt like pushing something is because we thought people had a good reason to keep us. But we just revealed we were close to a lot of people in the game for that to work out how it did, even I was surprised how people came through even if we had burned them in the past (including you). Here it's different I think people have a genuine reason to be kind of scared that we just go right back to working with Avo bard t+h and cleric. Also we spent like 8 hours doing that yesterday lol, we didn't mind the idea of getting idoled at all. I am excited to get to chat with Dave. -R2 Bees?: I mean that's true. And we did, but well, things have changed. Well, see, you may have burned me, but I'm not the sort that considers that to be the end of the world. I'm willing to work through stuff and rebuild trust if the other person is too. All about that forgiveness really. I hope the chat with Dave goes swell. It's entirely possible you're walking into a bitter juror, so uh, watch out for that. But keep being the classiest droids <3 Droids: Haha maybe, but it wasn't us who did it and I'm sure Dave will be interested in learning what happened from our POV. Good luck Bees! Have fun! -R2 Bees?: True enough. Ugh, I'm gonna miss you. This is stupid. But like, at least actual goodbyes and shit got to happen. That's not often the case in games, and I always appreciate having the chance to get them. Droids: I hope it is a long while before we get to chat again! -R2 Bees?: Yes, hard same. I don't wanna see you for a long while If not though, you get an I told you so. What did you tell me? idk, make something up. Droids:
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 18, 2021 0:45:00 GMT
Rey Rey: I always feel like i have no idea what i want, but i've been trying act more confidently. fake it till you make it.
Bees?: It's hard to know what you want, at any given moment. As long as you're trying to figure that out, I think that's all anybody can ask of you.
Rey: Cleric! This is wild
Bees?: It really is wild, like damn. Not the choice I would have expected, but it's definitely interesting.
Rey: Sorry, I've been struggling to keep up with pms here. People are trying to target Dave again..
Bees?: It's okay, I kinda crashed so like, I'm behind. Not exactly shocked by a Dave push.
Rey: i don't know where you're at here, but i think i'd like to prevent that from happening.
Bees?: I'll be honest, I'm nowhere yet. Let me kind of lay out a bit of why I'm nowhere.
I'm unsure if you heard about this, but last round there was a half attempt to blindside me for the assumption that I was even involved with Dave. I'm not, not in the way it was assumed I was. But Avo/Droids/Bard/TH all had a discussion about it. T/H i don't think were truly into it, but didn't feel they could say no. And they asked Grogu and Grogu said no. So I'm little idk about that side of whatever. But I don't particularly know where I stand on the other assumed group which I don't even think is a group. I do know that for a lot of people Dave going would be good for the lack of assumed connection, but like, someone leaving for something they're not doing is always trash. SO that's kinda where I'm at? I do not know what I want to do. Yesterday being such RL garbage meant I haven't really had time to think about this yet.
Rey: I heard about that too, which was strange to me because i thought droids was friends with you. it seems like there was some assumptions being made. but, like why try to target you and not dave himeself? i don't understand what happened there
at least you don't have to worry about being the vote this time
also, i'd like to apologize. my mind has been zipping all over the place, and i think i've just lazily slotted you into Dave camp without thinking about it much.
Bees?: Nah it's okay. I think a lot of people did just cuz I like him and we are the two left from our first starting tribe. It's kind of a fair assumption. I thought Droids was friends with me too, so hearing they panicked about thinking I was with Dave and they needed to weaken him by trying for me was.. some shit. I think the worry was like if you target Dave, wouldn't Droids/Avo be the next target? As it is, I think they already are for trying to pull something weird. They've just been scared of Dave for a long time, and I don't think they can turn that off. And maybe they want him as a shield, idk.
Ftr, I think people are counting you in the Dave camp too. But you're more of a free agent, right?
Rey: I guess so, but I do want to keep Dave around at least for this round. At the very least because he's somehow become this big attention grabbing target. And, to be honest, I pushed Ranger over Avocado last round who was also a name going around for similar reasons.
Bees?: Was Avo going around last round? I never even heard that one. Interesting.
But yeah like, I definitely get it. Dave being around does keep attention on him. And I don't hate that. I just hate being lumped in with the attention.
Rey: oh really? i thought even avocado knew about that.
i think you're vote here is a significant one. if you want to vote for dave, then i will give up on him completely. but, let me know if you're willing to back him up.
i think that public post was very provocative, and may have doomed him
Bees?: I think you might be right. Public posts rarely help you out. I am unsure still, sorry. Like, I can see the argument for either of the main wagons and I am still weighing my options and what I want to do going forward.
Rey: ok. feel free to ask me anything if you need to.
Bees?: Hey sorry, I only decided in the last few minutes. With everybody else jumping ship there was just nothing else to do. And the rumor that Avo had the idol was already out there.
Rey: Yeah. Cleric it turns out wasn't on board, so it ended up not mattering anyway. I should have let you know that, but everything was so chaotic near the deadline.
Bees?: Nah, you're fine. I got the same news from Maggie so I figured you'd hear eventually and at that point my vote didn't matter.
Rey: I'm nervous about the next round; I hope they don't pile on people perceived to have been working with Dave
Bees?: They can only do that if the people perceived to have been working with Dave let them. I don't think that's about to happen.
Rey: I'll try talking to Bard to where they're at with it all.
Bees?: That's a very good idea. Lemme know how it goes?
Rey: They seem to mostly be worrying about not having time tomorrow.
Bees?: It is Valentine's Day so that kinda makes sense as a worry.
Let me know what you're hearing, yeah? I'm like largely a day behind so I don't particularly have anything new atm.
Rey: droids seems to be floating the idea of a bonobo vote, but that bothers me obviously
I think Droids and Avocado might not be all that close right now. droids also hinted that they wish that avocado hadn't won immunity.
Bees?: Oh I don't like a Bonobo vote one bit, that sounds incredibly lazy. Droids whatrudoin? I think Droids and Avo have the realization that they can't exactly be doing too many things together, cuz that's just going to go poorly for them. Ngl, I also wish Avo hadn't won immunity, but that's just how it be.
Rey: It kinda feels like the droids didn't get the memo that they're supposed to throw their companions under the bus.
Bees?: I guess not. But maybe they will as the round goes on. I am unsure. I'm also not really sure what's going on.
Rey: i'm getting really nervous about bard. avocado is acting like he would be ok with bard leaving, but is pushing the droids really hard. i think maggie might be working with bard. i'm afraid even with droids gone, they'll get too powerful.
Bees?: I think you're right about Bard and Maggie. Maggie suddenly came up in a PM with Bard out of nowhere. I'll be real honest, I don't trust Avo, and haven't for a long while. Anytime there's a mess in a round, Avo is dead center of it. Do I think he's the perpetrator? Eh maybe not. But I do think that Bard is a worry, especially if you leave Bard and Avo alive. I think Droids would actually do other things maybe. I'm just not sure. I think it's a solid worry. Droids doesn't seem to want Bard to go, so maybe Bard is like the secret guy everybody kinda likes?
Rey: I'm glad you feel that way. People are telling me that we should vote the droids because it would be "easy". They're using as justification that you would be for a droids vote, but you've never actually told me that.
Bees?: I am hearing that my name is being used to kill Droids, enough Droids confronted me about whether I was doing that. And while, I wouldn't fight a Droids vote, I'm not pushing it. I don't want an easy vote, I want a smart vote. Fuck easy votes, cuz if votes are completely easy then somebody is being screwed over. Like look at who benefits from certain people going. That's what I do anyways. I'm not against Droids going, but I don't think it clears things up much. In a way, I'd rather keep some people who have a little tension, than ones who have none. Droids feels too easy, and I don't particularly like it because it feels easy.
Rey: I think Bonobo would be for a Bard vote at least
Bees?: I think so too, I know Dave said so last round. Cuz he was looking for people willing to vote Bard at the last minute. I think it partly depends on Grogu.
Rey: I think the votes are coming together
Bees?: For who? Cuz I've heard all sorts of things. Everybody seems to think that you're on their side with the vote. So Miss Rey, what are you doing?
Rey: Voting for Bard
I haven't told Bard that of course, but I am voting for them
Bees?: Okay. I mean Bard isn't even here so like *shrugs*. I think there's enough there, yeah.
Rey: This game is an absolute roller-coaster.
Bees?: What the fuck is this. Why the fuck is this.
Rey: i don't think you can talk to me
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 18, 2021 0:51:28 GMT
Bonobo Bonobo: That means a lot. Sorry for not responding yesterday. Didn't have the best sleep and essentially knocked out and took an internet break for the rest of the day. But I'm back and ready to open some gifts like it's christmas morning! I heard the Rey vs Dave thing like buzzing around but only after Rey wwass going around telling everyone it WASN'T happening, which I think wass funny. I love how quickly shit spreads around here. I had heard the Grogu thing from bard/avo kinda throwing around votes because the potential for coins. But now the coins are useless! COol you can break ties . Bees?: Hey it's okay. I understand the end of TC got a little nuts. And like, while we talk, I get it if we're not like besties that have to always be all up to date on stuff, and I don't mind that or hold it against you. I am very excited for gifts, I love ripping paper off of things. Haha, that is actually really funny. Poor Rey, won't people keep other people's names out of her mouth, like shit. Oh, yeah shit sure goes places real fast. And it kinda seems like a lot of people don't wanna like man up and directly ask people what was up. Grogu from bard/avo tracks with what I expect. Potential for coins? I'm not actually sure I follow. Bonobo: I just want you to know..... tortoise and hare and myself bid all $25 on box 4 and crashed into each other KSFJS;FSDF you're sitting on a BLOODY BOX. im so bitter that I literally forgot about the pennies like.... i want to screaaaaam. Oh well!!! I mean I'd love to keep you up to date on things/keep other people from targeting the other person. Like not besties moving together at least for now but i have no reason to send you home, conspire to send you home when I actually like you. Soooo maybe not besties if that's not what you want but like... confidants? and by potential for coins, the exile/voted out players had the potential to get coins so people were like worried about them having a HUGE aadvantage during the auction but then it was revealed it was just for tiebreakers. so like not much of an advantage Bees?: Hahaha. I only bid on two boxes so, thanks for bleeding over it for me, you're a pal. Wait, you didn't submit pennies at all? Oof. That's rough. I'm sorry man, can I offer you a banana in this trying time? Yes, I'm very into that. Like, it's not impossible our plans actually align but I'm not even sure what my plans are. I'm all about friendly agreements Oh yeah, okay. I did know that pennies were earned that way, I just was like wait, did they think they got pennies for committing murder? But no, not really. I mean, I did also put pennies on every box just in case there were boxes that went unclaimed. Bonobo: Hey!! Hope everything's been ok Glad to hear things are calmed down for you. if you ever just want to anonymously vent about things that's what us anonymous characters are here for!! i guess it becomes nonanonymous later on but i feel like talking through things in the moment always helps me move past things/makes me feel better i submitted pennies but for other boxes. I thought "hmm should i put at least one on this box?" aand then didnt. million dollar mistake. then friendly agreement it is i'll promise you i'm not targeting you this round Bees?: Yesterday was ass, today I'm just recovering from the stress. And yeah, will do. Just casually chatting can be really helpful sometimes, ya know? I'm just getting back into the swing of things. Ah, I put the very least a penny on every box, and there were pennies on another tie breaker i didn't win. So sorry about your lack of boxes. Haha, wow, such a strong promise. I'm sure nothing else decided that for you, no sir. Speaking of this round though, what have you heard so far? I kinda wanna sit back a little while I'm trying to get back into it. Bonobo: Getting into the george of the jungle, swinging from a vine swing of things, am i right? Bees are found in jungles based on your map. I always try to casually talk in survivor but I think it's more fun to lie about my daily life. No one needs to know wwhat I'm doing. I could be jeff probst himself behind the avatar!! So lot's to chat about! No worries, obviously it showws that i aam not a target and need to be taken to the end as a goat baaaaaaa. definitely not someone who is weakened and has no chance of saving themselves :S god these pms are just dripping with sarcasm. And who said animals don't have the brain capacity to understand the nuances of human communication??? We're doing pretty fine ourselves. I've heard it's avo vs dave which is good considering they're the "big names" everyone's talking about so maybe we'll find out once and for all which side is on top and which person is going to be taken down in a dramatic blindside like 5 votes downw the line. Bees?: Yep, that's what I'm trying. Love having immunity as I do it though. Yes, there are bees in the jungle. Haha, you know, lying about your life is always fun. I only lie about some things, but you will never know which ones~ Haha, I don't think you're a goat. The way I see it, goats wouldn't ever get anyone to vote for them. You're inoffensive and could pick up a few. Mm well, I made a promise, so I'm not targeting you here. Haha, sarcastic animals are the best. Honestly, I think whoever said that animals don't get nuances doesn't understand fuck all. They absolutely do, they just communicate in different ways. But like, they have a lot of communication that they do solely to communicate with us, like come on. Humans ain't that special. And yep, I've also heard that. And the public posts sure show that to be the case too. I'll be honest, I'm torn. I don't know which is better for me going forward. And I agree with that assessment, the one who lives won't live for long without an immunity run. Bonobo: wwait.... are you really a bee?? please don't be lying about that oooh is that a promise then?? don't go telling people you think I could be getting votes!! that's not good for my game!!! fucking jane goodall and her "environmental science" degree that just relies on putting down the feelings of animals! We're complex beings TOO! I love how i did not read any of the public posts until like way after I had already sent out my PMs for the day. I was very confused getting responses like "yeah did you see dave's outburst??" like fuck I missed a lot. Do you think the tides will chaange against bard/avo? I feel like getting out dave is a "big move" in the grand scheme of things but just depends on what everyone else is thinking. I was expecting a feww more powers to be used in all honesty Bees?: No, I am not.... I am a *lot* of bees. Haha, I won't tell anybody, I swear. Nobody will know that you are entirely votable at the end. No sir. Not a soul. Haha, did she actually do that? I could have sworn that Jane Goodall was you know.... good about animals? Have I kept her in the wrong box in my brain? Oh no. Lol, reading it after the fact must have been a time, huh? I honestly think there's definitely attention going towards Bard/Avo/Droids. And like, yeah Dave going is a big move sorta, but it also was a bit of a nonmove. Idk. This game is weird. everything is weird. I also expected more things to be played, but they did not. Bonobo: yes yes sorry i'm glad you're a lot of bees like your profile says. I've never gone on a blind date before. nice to see that you all brought a red rose. speaking about "the end" glad to know that we're officially in jury phase. It feels like a massive weight was lifted off my shoulders knowing i haven't wasted like a month at this point and been one of the like 7 at this point that haven't been voted out just to NOT end up on jury. Yeah it was very shocking like Oh... Dave... blew up his game already and there's no hope in saving him... got it. I think it's nice how T/H get to just skate by the maroon quartet without suspicion I feel like avo/bard are pooling their resources and throwing Droids under the bus because they've indicated that's the way they'd prefer the vote goes. Hopefully an easy round?? Bees?: Just a whole bunch of bees. I've also never been on a blind date, that just sounds like too high of a gamble. That is really nice, we have some sense of the end actually coming near. Rather than feeling this game could be the rest of our lives. Yeaaah. It was quite the explosion. I'm not sure all of why it happened the way it did. That sounds about right, that's basically what I'm hearing which is like hmmm. I don't know if it will be an easy round, but I'm also catching up from last night so I'm trying to make head's or tails of everything. Bonobo: i mean I've been on like dating app dates where I knew little about a person. But yeah they are such a gaamble. At least in the current climate it's easy to just do a date from home and be like oooh sorry gotta go something... uh.. off camera is happening I have to run andattendtobyeeeee Yeah maybe not an easy round persay but I don't necessarily feel like the game is going to raandomly shift on its head like last round. From what I'm getting Avo/Bard/T/H are giving up Droids to the fire. Droids is throwing out the new foursome of a,b,t,h and now Cleric. So it feels like as long as we all vote together one of them should go wwithout a doubt. Bees?: Oh huh. Never have. I've chatted people up on dating apps, but I've sorta avoided the whole actually do a date thing. And true enough. I'm so sorry I have to go iron my dog, byeeeee. Probably not, no. Yep, I did hear that they washed their hands of Droids which makes me raise an eyebrow a bit. Cuz it's like "look, we'll let this one go, we're not a group, promise!" I think Droids is concerned about Cleric anyways. I've also heard there could be a potential Bard boot here. How would you feel about that happening? Bonobo: I haave to go feed my pet bees gtggggg I wwould be totes fine with a Bard boot. I think that also just cuts the head off the side alliance aand opens this gaame up even more? Though it seems like Avo's doing whatever he can to save him so that's got me mighty worried that an idol or something will be played here. Oh well, whatever happens happens at this point. I also think with all this drama we could easily line up a cleric vote as long as we don't just immediately go into tribes like what is being specualted. Though that would require 3v3v3 right?? oh god. Bees?: Haha, yeah. That's exactly what I'm thinking yep. Like, Avo/Bard/T/H were really fine with dropping Droids. Like super fine. Which concerns me a lot. Like, if they're supposed to be this golden group, why would they drop this guy? Like come on. I am worried about some items coming out, yeah. But like, I think it'll be a situation where it won't end up being us at the very least? Going into tribes would be complete ass and I want to veto that forever. No thank you, I am done with tribes. Fuck that shit. Bonobo: So that was a fun tribal! I'm surprised how much shifted at the last second?? like silver posting, "give us a second to parse through this mess." wheewwwww crazy. im sorry but i think wwe're going RIGHT into tribes like this was just a ginormous shipwwreck adn that's just something you're going to have to deal w/ Bees?: It really was, I was not expecting it to go like that. Well when bard knew the vote was on him, I'm not surprised he tried to pull some stuff. Wait, you think what's happening? I'm not sure I follow exactly. Bonobo: HELLLLA OBSESSED WITH THIS RIGHT NOW Bees?: I started responding to this in the middle of the forum exploding. But I'm mad that this wasn't the theme the whole time. Bonobo: i know this is so hot i feel so cool! firsT APE IN SPAACE!!!! Bees?: *resists urge to go on at length about all the apes that have been to space* Not the first bees in space, but certainly not alone in space!! Bonobo: ok fine first apes to encounter alien life!!!!!!!!! smart ass >__> wwait im sorry doubleback there. they have sent bees to space??? Bees?: Haha, sorry. I'm a space nerd. I know an unreasonable amount of things about space. Yes, yes they have. Quite a lot of bees to space: www.sciowa.org/about-sci/sci-blog/general-sci/bees-in-space/Bonobo: holy fuck 3,500 bees???? how did they strap them in/?? noww i'm worried about the hive like they wwere probably SHAKING from the amount of G's it takes them to get into space. Like Bees?: I have wondered this myself. but SO MANY BEES. But it seems they've done okay? So at least there's that. Honestly, the hive was probably fine and protecting them? Bonobo: I mean they seem to have done great except for those that you know died during the mission. But! They died in service to their country. Such patriotic bees <3. Now all I can imagine aare cute little bee spacesuits <3333 Bees?: I mean dying during missions, everybody does that. It means nothing. I don't know that Bees have patriotism tbh. We just go where the flowers are. Oh fuck, bee spacesuits. HECK I didn't even consider that. But how are you feeling about this little tribe currently? It feels a lot of weird and I was curious your take on it all. Bonobo: this tribe... it's definitely a weird bunch I don't knoww where T&H stand because I know wwe were all able to work together on getting lindsay out but i feel like they were really strongly connected with avo/bard still in the last few rounds. I don't know how things will fall if it's just us. at least you know you're the only one with a crazy item Bees?: It's definitely really weird. I'm not even sure what's the plan for any of this right now. I'm still processing the whole of everything from this twist and challenge. I mean yeah I have an item, but it's incredibly situational so it's not exactly helpful. I'm just tired man. Bonobo: I mean it's pretty clear that t&h and avo are voting together based off the previous rounds. For full transparency, they've already told me they're voting for you so I'm just asssuming they're telling the same to you about me? Bees?: Aww, is that what they said? That's so nice. Of course, they've said the opposite. Why would they say anything else? Like come on. I mean, I wouldn't be the most shocked if you were going to vote for me. We don't exactly have a relationship, not really. We're just sorta friends. I also hadn't heard from Avo in a few rounds until suddenly like "hey man, wanna truce maybe?" which is like dude, come on. Bonobo: ok wait i literally just got a message from t&h and i may have misread a message he sent. They are down to do avo here and ditch the whole alliance that they are associated with. So now I'm just confused, is aavo just trying to force the targets between us somehow?? Because I feel like we have no reason to go against each other here in normal play so he's gotta be trying something sneaky if he knows his neck is on the line. I don't know how truthful T&H are being but I think that's our open door. But yea I got the same shit from avo, "Hey let's have a truce. I'm not trying to win just give me F7 <3. I'm down to advocate for you in the jury if you're willing to do that." Ring a bell? Bees?: That might be what Avo is doing. I'm unclear on what it is they're actually doing. That is the worst part about 4 person tribes. You can never be sure what the fuck is happening where and why. And I hate them. Final 4 you definitely know what's up at that point. Aww, he said he'd advocate for you in jury? He didn't even offer me that Bonobo: So then mine might be more true? All I know is he's made too many deals left right and center and once he connects with the others in the other tribe, we're in a losing game. So you know for sure I am a vote on your side and we're either going to a tie or Avo's going home. T&H said he wanted it to be a blindside because he's not 100% sure what Avo's got. Bees?: Haha, it might be, yeah. You're definitely right, Avo being around is just a mess for all involved. And there is that, yeah. Honestly that's a fair concern. Guy's pulled out the idol before, so I wouldn't be shocked if he does it again.
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 18, 2021 1:08:59 GMT
Avocado Avocado: AYO bees i know that you probably hate me and that our relationship has been more neglected then me at a mcdonalds ball pit when i was five BUT i think that we have a bit of a situation on our hands comin into the next round and you are NOT anywhere near the top half a the list a people i wanna vote out. the truth is that i kinda let my messagin slip a bit and i ended up bein too afraid to follow up and apologize so that kinda dominated my life so i understand if you hate me, i just think we got bigger fish to fry movin forwards
so like. wanna just wipe the slate clean, do a truce, then if you want you can dive at my throat later? i aint votin you here and i aint tryna merk ya down the line either
Bees?: Dude, I don't hate you. I don't know why you think that I do. And i mean, yeah it's gotten a bit neglected. I kinda was waiting to see if you were going to message me at all or if we were both doing that dance of waiting for the other person. I think you just might be right.
What are you suggesting that we should do then? Like... I'll be real honest, I haven't even processed us being at TC right now. I'm really fucking angry about the whole of the game itself right now. But yes, let's talk.
Avocado: cos i dont message you for a while and i heard that you were pushin my name in the round where i won immunity before it happened which made me feel like my efforts to talk to you were kinda not gonna be reciprocated. im sorry for gettin you caught in that waiting dance BUT im slightly happy that i got a bit of a break cos lord knows i aint gonna survive messaging tons a people back to back and shit.
look if youre willin to accept a truce, hare doesnt have that great of a relationship with bonobo (and bonobo straight up said he felt like you were gettin too complacent and would consider voting you) so thats where my votes gonna be tonight. beyond that the SERIOUS shit that we need to fry is the returnees. i mean you saw them throw the challenge where the scores were 0-0-0-6 right? grogu has a tiebreaker item and cleric has a vote nullifier, so if they get to the f7 then they can have three members at the f6 which paves the way for grogu to move forward and fuck shit up. so if you wanna like. look away from each other for the next few votes so we can fuck shit up from both sides a the fence then i would love that. if you wanna vote me ill be hurt but thats also fine
Bees?: That's not a reason to hate you, honestly I kinda laugh at it a little bit. "Is Avo going to message me today? I wonder!" And you're not wrong, I did think that you were a good vote that round until you won immunity. And yeah I kinda understand that, I get needing a break from PMing.
Let me think on it, okay? Like I need to calm down from results before I think I can really figure out the fuck I want/need to do. Your vote is going to be on Bonobo? Just making sure I'm reading that correctly. And yeah, some returnees need to go like fuck that shit. I'll be honest, I know I messed up on stuff cuz I didn't realize the rules of anything enough to actually do things smartly. So possibly a throw yes, or just dumb. Rey not submitting is some shit though. Cleric's vote nullifer is slightly new information for me actually. It is a good deal, and so far when you've given a deal or something of the sort you've stuck to it and not lied about it. so let me think about it okay? I'm not saying no though.
Avocado: yeah no i figure there are more important things to be doin than messagin someone who i dont have a great relationship with on some random online game. no offense to you of course. BUT i think that this is shapin up to be an individual game and also there are big threats on the horizon either way so like. you get the idea. my only goal this game is literally to make it as far as i possibly can and thatll be it which is why im comin to you and bein straight up altogether
thats chill dude. im not gonna be messed up or traumatized if you do think that you need to take a step away from the game or some shit. but yes my vote is going to be on bonobo tonight and im letting you know 23 hours in advance so you can discern whether or not goin forward with me is good for you or some shit. and if i do live then im sure as hell helpin you against the returnee epidemic or some shit. lemme know what you end up doin when you reach your conclusion and ill be ready to ball with ya if thats what you choose. but yea do what you need to man
Bees?: Yeah that's very fair. Which is why I don't hate you, I get it. I also think you're right it is shaping up to be that. The twists sure seem to be wanting to make that happen. And yeah, I understand.
I thought not, which is why I did that last night. And yeah, I appreciate that. I think I'm going to agree to this deal. Considering the worry about those returnees and not knowing if we're in tribes for yet another round, I think I need you. At the very least I know what you're doing and with who. I can't say the same about Bonobo.
T/H Hare: Oh it's absolutely terrible. I live in a constant struggle. My thoughts are not my own, and I have no free will. Tortoise and I have been fighting constantly, even since the first round. And every single time, neither of our opinions matter. We are always overruled by the booming voice in the back of our heads compelling us to do something neither of us want to do. Tortoise and I serve a greater being. He has no name, but can be beckoned by asking for Mr. Toad.Hare: Haha, hydra dissonance? No, we get along just fine. Yeah, I thought droids trusted you guys too. That's why it was so left field when it first came out. I don't know who fits the description of making them intentionally paranoid, but I would probably have to see their conversations to know for sure. I know from a bit of experience being a hydra that it's possible to have unproductive conversations, but we're pretty good at just logging off if the other person is just rambling or not coming to any productive conclusions. If they talk to each other too much in the wrong way, it could become legitimately like a feedback loop, like the electro-gram of someone's brain while having a seizure. Bees?: Haha, you're always good for a good belly-laugh. Thanks <3 I don't know why they didn't. Like I guess maybe they felt like they were left out of the conversations that decided the vote last time? Idk. At least y'all know to just fuck off if things are confusing and all. So maybe it is just them being worried at each other. Either way, I don't have to worry about it for a round. Hare: bet that immunity feels pretty good right now. That banner alluding to someone becoming all powerful does not inspire confidence in the next round. The black banner has never looked so ominous. And of course they have to do the pyramid round at the same time as we get this banner; the beloved crapshoot challenge that no one ever wins. I think I already missed the window of opportunity to post in the challenge thread that I just want to go up the right side, what a shame. um, so, yeah, my peppermint gum is nice at least. that hasn't expired yet. Bees?: Oh it definitely does. considering the fiasco of a day I had, being able to legitimately check out is fucking nice. And uh no, it really doesn't but hey. Well apparently Grogu wins it. Yeah seems Grogu did the opposite strategy of go up the left. Gum can be pretty nice, yeah. Hare: *takes hit of gum* *deep exhale, mint smoke cloud* Yep, take some time off for a minute, you're fine and immune and can just detox. Come back whenever, ya know. Bees?: That's kinda hot ngl. Yeah, but I would be interested in what you hear around. I'm not like angling for anything to happen currently. Still wanna readjust and plan a little after all of everything new which has happened. Hare: So far I'm hearing it might be Dave's time to go here. And unlike last time with dark rey, I think this is a real push. I don't know if it was even his fault, but the spectre of ~Dave's Army~ is just getting to be too much for people to bear. I know it's already done a substantial amount of harm *gestures at droids*. I agree with the push too - I think the sooner Dave goes home the sooner the uncomfortable two sides narrative comes to an end. What do you think? Bees?: I was also hearing about that. I think you are right that it is a real push and I kinda get why it is. It's just a little weird though, like guy has barely been here lately, and the narrative of him running things is just really nuts. But like yeah, perception is a hell of a drug, and paranoia don't help neither. Yeah I get that. I am weighing options, last round really fucked with me, ya know? So I really want to make sure I make choices that aren't going to leave me in a position that I'm fucked by people again. I hate the two sides narrative so much. I'd love the idea of reforming something else that is neither of those. Cuz like I know at least for me, one of the sides was an assumption I was part of that caused me problems, and then the other is the one that decided I was a problem. Sooooo. I am not exactly the most in it today though. Hare: Dave is not the mastermind. It's just a convenient excuse people are using to push him. I just feel like his reputation is so bad that I don't know if it's salvageable at this point. It seems that the main reason why that blindside attempt on you happened was because *Dave Exists* and I don't want you to be dragged down with him. But also, the fact that the attempted blindside on you crashed and burned so hard and weirded people out so much should to you be a testament to the relationships you've made throughout the game. We were never going to do it, even if anyone else said yes. Unless popular opinion swings elsewhere sometime this evening, I think dave has a majority on him. My hope is that if dave does go down here, people will see you as opened up again, your reputation will recover and you will have the image of the good guy. Then we can start thinking about those people who are ACTUALLY causing problems. I've already started putting in the work laughing at people who try to sell me the dave as mastermind story. Bees?: Oh definitely not. He's so not. I don't know that it is salvageable. Like, he is always going to be perceived as the GUY who you gotta push and be afraid of cuz he's so scary aaa. Yep, Dave Exists and oh no Bees likes him?? BEES IS DEFECTING TO THE OTHER SIDE, WE MUST LIMIT DAVE'S POWER IF BEES IS LEAVING US BEHIND. /s That is true. Like, I feel good about certain individual people, you are definitely one. Like, we've been together for a long time, it's weird to think about making a vote that we're not both involved in. But thank you for the reassurances Probably yeah. I could see some traction on Avo or Droids happening in an attempt to save Dave. Avo's been rubbing people the wrong way for a little bit now. And I think you are right though, for whatever reason people can't get it out of their head that I must be tied up with Dave. I do always love your laughing at dumb shit. For what it's worth, Dave did say looking at what some people are talking about as The Maroon 4, you're not even an option to consider as a counter. Tortoise: Perception is reality, I guess? The fact that Dave is going will open up the game a bit more, I think? and like you said earlier, an option to reform the game from the current two sides that exist is what we want too. There's a lot of big threats still in the game, and some of them don't seem to even realize how big of a threat they are? It's just a matter of picking the right time. Idk what Dave's planning, but he's giving us Avocado as the countervote now. I don't really see that happening but it's a crazy game Bees?: Perception is a reality-altering drug you mean Cuz like often Perception ain't truth by a long shot. But yeah like Dave leaving opens up a lot, and doesn't keep certain people in boxes they never agreed to be in. Which threats do you see that don't realize it? Opportune Moments is exactly the way to go about it, I agree. Dave seems really into the idea of Avo, but he says he heard Avo has the idol. Cuz of course that would be the rumour. I wonder if they're going to go for Droids or Bard. You're not an option, so idk. Bees?: Hmm, I hope a rumor starts going around that we have the idol just so we can be extra safe this round. That would be convenient. And the rumor would be that we guessed the idol with um.. the number 9383. Yes, so it would be very foolish to flip a vote on us. What do you mean, divisible by 11? Eleven doesn't really exist as a number, you've been educated wrong. Yeah, Dave's said that he isn't flipping the vote on us and that you vouched for us, so we appreciate that. He didn't give us any name though, so I guess he's trying to pull off the flip without us. Maybe at least we'll see some items get burned. Hare: I actually heard a rumor that Avo had the idol, so like there might be some hinky shit, fuck if I know man. 11 isn't a real number, it's one of those fake ones. Like Ohio. Yeah, you're welcome. Like, if he wants to flip it on you, he'll have to do it without me. I ain't about that shit. Nah. I think he's just looking for any other name as insurance. And I am pretty sure items will come out. Hare: cor dave could just blow up to the point where no one would ever want to save him. that's fine i guess. what did i say. you live by the two sides, you die by the two sides. dave goes out swinging at these sides and falls flat on his face. what ever man Bees?: Yeah, rarely does public posts keep you alive. Like, I think I saw it work once ever. And that was only because the public poster had an idol in their pocket. Yeeeep. Sides are death. I do think it's fair to point out some of the connections though. Avo/Bard/Droid are definitely a thing. Bard might be willing to do other things, but I think it's Avo Droids to the end of time. Which I do not love. But Dave really needed to go I think. And what jury doesn't have a salty first one? Hare: Avocado and droids do give the impression that they are very close. Dave called out the quartret running the game - I think I'm the fourth member of that in his eyes ~ he messaged me to let me know I was at the bottom of that alliance. You mean I can't just roll to the end with the biggest names in the game? Thanks for the insight, Dave! Avo/Bard/Droids are a thing. I know it, you know it, everyone knows it. People will take shots at them, and those shots will land, and they will be eliminated. I know it will happen eventually, probably sooner rather than later, and I know I am on good terms with them so I'm not very much afraid of them. The two of us are extremely likely to survive those rounds unscathed. But future consensus boots aside, the thing that's actually going to prevent people like you and I from getting to endgame is grogu/darkrey/cleric. Bees?: I think you're right, yeah. Like the idea of a Maroon 4 seems to exist. Wait, you can't? I had no idea! Yep, that is very true, we all do. I would be shocked if it's not immediate here tbh tho. This just seems like the kind of thing people will feel that they have to do. I also think you're right. What about Bonobo or Maggie, I notice you didn't list them here. Where do you think they fit in? But I do think you're right in that if we're going to make it forward we're going to have to keep an eye on people like Rey. Hare: Knowing that our slot is not going to be able to just roll with the maroon 4, and also knowing that I am pretty sure every single one of them see us as their personal goat, tortoise and I talked about how to go forwards once those guys are gone. I think that involves a lot of working closely with you since I you're our strongest connection outside of them. Also yeah I fully expect one of them to go home this round and I've got no problem with that. The reason I list those three is because they are all returnees, and grogu slipped last round and said something he probably shouldn't have. He said he didn't feel like he would be able to beat a non-returnee in the end. There are exactly three returnees in this game. He's already known to be a pair (f2?) with dark rey, and it's not a stretch he would rope in cleric too. Just looking ahead, if those three make it to final six intact, the game is over and everyone else has lost. Final seven might also be too late, just due to items. That's why I don't list bonobo and maggie in that block. Maggie seems close to rey and grogu, but I think they see her as a disposable meat shield. I don't think maggie knows this. So I know the upcoming vote might become tense surrounding us because ~we're in with the maroon 4~, but we know we're on the bottom of it, and we're looking ahead for what comes next after it's been broken up. Bees?: Well I would very much like to work with you It's gone well so far, why stop a good thing? The question is now, which one? Ah yeah that's fair. See, the thing with that I've heard was that he's been told that he won't be able to win as a returnee. Is he a pair with Rey? I didn't actually know that. But she's also an enigma so I wasn't really sure where to place her. He'd have to figure out how to get close to Cleric, he's not the chattiest guy though he's trying. And you're right, they can't all get to 6, that's just no. You're definitely right. I get that now. Is Maggie close to anybody truly? I dont' think so. I think the closest was Dave and even then, I don't know. Yeah that's true. We're both in and not in the group, so I suppose we gotta figure out the best play here. Hare: I don't know what the best play for this round is. I don't know where people are willing to vote. Do you mean within the maroon group or elsewhere? Dave called out the foursome pretty explicitly and we're supposed to be in it so I don't think we are being included in any of the important conversations of this round. An inversion of last round maybe where you were said to be dave's mastermind partner. Now we are the mastermind partner probably -_- People might say returnees can't win but I think they will change their tune when they have been on jury long enough, especially if someone plays really well. Bees?: I'm not really sure. I'm catching up on PMs. But it does sound like Bard plopped a vote on Droids and can't be here super much cuz Valetine's Day. I did kinda mean them, yeah. But we're probably not super involved in the conversations. Oh yeah probably. I've never thought that returnee's can't win. I've always thought that they needed to own coming back as part of it, but acknowledge why they went out and talk about how they adapted and changed from that and that's why they're still here. The right argument will win out imo. What are you hearing/thinking? Hare: Hearing? One person says droids, everyone else is avoiding us until the vote goes over. Thinking? Probably droids. Voting? Also probably droids. Tortoise and I are eagerly desiring to talk to you about what you want the next few rounds to be, but I can understand if you want to wait for the vote to end first. Bees?: Bard said he left a vote on Droids before he had to leave for Valentine's Day, so seems there's at least A vote there. Even though I haven't actually been around for TC talk, somebody was telling Droids I was pushing for them to be the vote. Which I didn't know I could PM in my sleep, what a useful and also shit skill! Are you really hearing from barely anybody? I'm fine to do a little preliminary chatter, yeah, but the meat should be after TC. Hare: That was this morning when 1. no one was on, and 2. tortoise did a round of messages this morning I logged in after not checking and then I only had one message. lol. By now everyone is going around and asking if we are ok with droids, applying various levels of caution. But the fact that even maggie is comfortable saying droids to us feels like I think it's unanimous on them. That's fair, we can save the deeper stuff until after TC in case anything goes weird. We were mostly just thinking about the three returnees. Grogu's mentioned to us that he knows people are going to come after them eventually, and with maroon 4 broken up, he seems most concerned with, you know, making sure he doesn't end up becoming the droids of that threesome. He even kinda threw cleric under the bus a little bit, by saying cleric suggested a returnees F3. Which tbf isn't surprising but at the same it's a pretty decent card to play to take her out if we had to. more later ig Bees?: Ah okay. Well. I think everyone is sorta okay with Droids as a vote, which does make me raise my eyebrow a bit. Like, how have the past few "easy" votes gone. There's always something else, and somebody benefitting more than other people no? It just feels weird. We know there's a lot of items, so I would be shocked if something didn't come out. Not an idol but some other vote related shenanigans. Ah yeah fair. I can definitely get that concern, yeah. It's probably a fair one too. Lol, of course Cleric did. Idk what Cleric is doing though, he's an odd duck. And yeah, true, it is a card to play. Hare: People are saying bard now. Even saying that you're the leader of the push. Is that the PLAY? Bees?: Oh my god, this entire round has been people saying I'm the leader of pushes. First I was the main name on the Droids vote, now I'm the main name on the Bard vote. Yes, there is traction on Bard. Yes, I think it's a good idea. But no, it did not originate with me. I just don't hate it. Hare: Haha you were the name on the droids vote? I don't remember that. I'm not calling you the leader, I'm just letting you know rey is calling you the leader. That's all What's the logic on bard versus droids? Bees?: Haha, yep apparently. That's what I heard anyways, that I had people being all "oh hey are the main person wanting this?" and I'm like what? no? what?? Ah, so that's what's going on. Thank you. I had it narrowed down to a few people and Rey was one of them. A lot of it is like, it was just real easy and fast how Bard/Avo jumped all over dumping Droids after last round and I don't like the look of that one. Idk man, it just feels like all roads lead through there and I'd rather go for one of the ones actually pulling some stuff ya know? It just also has a feel of, Droids can be dropped without much actual complaint or whatever, but Bard is one that i worry will be unable to be moved. That's roughly it more or less. Hare: I actually see droids as more difficult to drop later on than bard, but I can understand why you would think that. The closer you look to bard the more you see he only has one person who would take him to the end. A lot of people are saying majority is on bard now, I think it might be. Bees?: I suppose. Idk, like, they're really really close. It's like splitting apples and apples, which one is red delicious cuz that's gotta go. Honestly? I have no fucking idea. Cuz there's at least two people who are claiming they're on both sides of the vote as far as I can tell, like, I've heard Rey and Cleric are being counted by both vote wagons. So your guess is as good as mine. Hare: bard literally logged on said "im idolling" and then "no time for messages see you after 8" LOL bluff check? Bees?: Lol whelp. That's neato. I guess it is going to be that, huh? Hare: i legit have no idea if he's bluffing or not so best of luck i still don't know if dave was telling the truth of being able to pass idol shards Bees?: Man a lot of this is like fuck if I know who is telling any sort of truth so like, ugh. This round has been a lot. And i feel like it's still going to be a lot. Hare: he was idolling Bees?: Yes it would seem so. This is a much more interesting round than it has any rights to be. Hare: Do you think so, bees? As I understand it, the push was more anti-bard than it was pro droids, but i also was completely left out of it other than nice people looping me in (and out) of it so maybe droids unanimous 24h break round please save me from this cursed group every moment they all stay in the game my reputation degrades? Bees?: Well I mean, I didn't expect it to go into a tie, and it kinda seems it did that via vote steal unless I'm misunderstanding who voted where. And yeah, like, I don't see anyone choosing to dump Maggie here. It was always more about like which of Bard or Droid it should be, not gotta save Droids. So like, I don't see this going any other way. Hare: It's me hare messaging this, but tortoise who is at work right now wrote this for you and sent it over discord: Hey Bees, We're going to throw all of our cards on the table here. We've been dancing around this for a while now. We want you to be our number 1 and we want to go to the end with you. We got worried last round when Bard told us 9 mins before deadline that they were playing an idol. Avocado then wanted to idol you out, but we were able to throw out Maggie as a countervote because there's no way we want you out. We don't really see an endgame for us that doesn't include you. Bard/Avocado/Droids are no options for us to take to the end, they'll just beat us easily. I'm not sure how much we can trust Bonobo and we pretty much ruined the very little relatioinship we had with Maggie. Then there's the three Returnees, who will probably protect each other. And if two of them make it to the end, they will take each other and vote us out. You and I have had a good connection for a while now and we want us to be a solid pair(well trio, if you count the both of us). So what do you say, are you interested in planning the rest of this game with us and put it all on the line? We understand if this is coming off a bit direct, but this is what we've been wanting for quite a while now. Bees?: I would be honoured Oh is that why Avo hasn't spoken to me in about a day and a half. That's nice. I appreciate you shifting it elsewhere at the very least. That is incredibly flattering I definitely agree, they're not good for anybody to keep around. Bonobo is a mystery wrapped up in an enigma. Maggie to, but she at least attempts to give you insight into her thoughts. That is very fair about the returnees, definitely some concern to have there. I appreciate the directness of it, actually. I would like to plan with you, yes Hare: Thanks, it's comforting to know we will have someone there for us after the previous members of our side have all self destructed Yes, I don't really see avo making it much further in this game with his attitude. As I understand it it was supposed to be him this round before he won immunity. We don't know very much about bonobo or maggie either. But their timezones match up, they both come on in the wee hours of the morning when I should have been asleep! Well, we've told you a bit of what we think of the field so far. What do you think about the near future of this game? well bonobo just sent me a message saying "we don't have to pretend to be friends anymore right" so thats nice Bees?: Oh god what? That's... ugh. I wonder if he assumes that he's gone here or something and that's what it is? I was going to respond to your other PM before all of this happened. And uh, well, it didn't exactly change much. Like Avo was always a nonstarter for a while here. And I don't think this small tribe changes that much at all. But what I do know is that it doesn't change where I'm at either, you and I are still good. Hare: bees he sent the message slightly before the tribes, man, he sent it and that refresh was when i saw the theme change color i dont feel good about this man, why the heck does he have to do this man. this tribe was literally going to be so easy before this. now i dont feel so good man. Bees?: Oh uh. That's.... I don't like that at all. What the fuck does that mean? We can work it out. I don't know why he's being like this, but we can probably make this be okay. Like if anything is going to be tried, he's going to at least attempt to clue me in, right? And I'm not budging on you, so it'll be okay. Hare: do you have enough relationship with bonobo to talk to him? like the heck is he doing right now? i dont want him targeting me here on a four man tribe when there is an idol up for grabs. literally just a one line PM, "we dont have to be fake friends anymore" paraphrased. come on son Bees?: I do, yes actually. Like we talk a fair bit. We're not like close, but we do talk about votes. Right now he's just being real excited about space. I understand that, that's not something anybody wants, I get it. That's gotta be nerve-wracking, I don't blame you for the panic. Hare: wait bees you have that item that item i wanted to buy with the healing insiginia i bid my money on it assuming it was going to be a remove one vote on your self item YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE ON THE TRIBE WITH ITEMS, BEES! AVOCADO WON THE THING AND GOT NOTHING OK I FEEL OK NOW SHEESH OK THANK YOU I FEEL OK Bees?: I do have an item, that is true. It's not a remove your vote on yourself item. If it's useful, I'll tell you, it's incredibly situational. Avo did only win bring a person back. So yeah, like, we'll be okay one way or another. So just breathe, as long as we stick together, we will survive this easily. Hare: Ok, I trust you. I respect not saying what the item is 'cause i think everyone in the game who has shared an item with someone now has their entire item common knowledge. like cleric's vote nullifier, rey's avoidance thingy, rey's idol shard.... aw man! that's where the vote nullifier went... Bonobo and I clashed on the item you won, so neither of us have anything, plus we know avo has nothing. if its incredibly situational i am happy i didn't win it lol, sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Bees?: Thank you for understanding. That's exactly the reason I haven't told anybody what it is that I ended up with, because even when people are good-intentioned with telling other people about items they know somebody has, that doesn't mean the other person isn't going to be good-intentioned with somebody else. Yeah, that's where the vote nullifer went. I wonder who Rey tried to specifically avoid. Yep, so there's that at least. It's more it may just end up being unused cuz the situations in which you can use it smartly are limited. But this tribal may just be one of them. IF we go to tribal. Hare: Evidently rey tried to avoid one of us! I really, really, really hope the other tribe goes to TC this round. Like, this is literally perfect if we win. All the people without items just chilling on their own beach, and then the other tribe is all just like with cleric's vote nullifier, and rey's idols or shards or whatever she has, and i bard and grogu have items too, ahhh yeah this is great say actually how DID bard get his idol, he never told me. i didn't even know he had it until immediately before the deadline. Was he the last survivor holding an idol shard from the three tribes? Dave openly claimed to have ours. Maybe it wasn't rey that had that one, maybe it was someone else like cera/zero3? But then I also heard the merge idol shard was the fourth piece and rey has that. Do you know where these are at? Bees?: Lol I mean maybe? I don't think we actually know which she chose. So do I. I'd like that a lot. Let items go flying into oblivion, I'm real into that. Bard's item may have been the idol he had right? Or maybe Dave gave his idol shard to Bard instead of Avo like he said? I didn't even know he had one until you said anything about it. I knew he had the idol shard before the one Rey picked up, cuz he mentioned that, but aside from that uh nope, no idea. Though I do remember hearing something about Michael Cera being voted out with one. I forget who said it. Hare: I remember hearing cera got voted out with a shard too. I wonder if they are really as transferable like dave claims they are or if they are locked to a person. The auction results are public so you know who got how many things. Droids was voted out holding onto an item on the revote because you can't transfer items during revotes. The nature of that item makes me think these tribes will only last one round, but I could be wrong. Exactly! Space makes for a perfect theme to create a vacuum for stuff we don't want around. It lines up perfectly. I hope you've enjoyed the day off too. It was so peaceful that I even took an afternoon nap. Bees?: I think they are temporarily transferable. Droids said something about Bard sending them the idol shard at one point, when we were talking yesterday. So I don't think they're locked to a person. And true enough. I think it might be just a single round. Also! I wonder if the item Rey had is why Maggie is in exile currently. True, it's thematically appropriate. Please mods, we just want one thing. That's all. I have, I got caught up on work which was nice to be able to do without needing to check in on game things. Since Avo isn't talking to me, and Bonobo is a rarity. Hare: did everyone in the entire game just throw this challenge except for myself and bard what did i just witness Bees?: I swear to god, I actually tried. I just didn't even realize that we were being misled with the rules. They had a person not even fucking submit, like what the fuck? I'm so angry and tired of this bullshit. Hare: yeah i get that. i got the trick but i got the other thing wrong. im not implying you threw, im just freaked out as all hell by the other side right now bees the fact that every single returnee got absolutely zero right scares the absolute hell out of me PLUS dark rey just didnt even bother doing it Bees?: Yeah I know. I'm just... I'm so fucking done with all of this today. I'm also freaked out, and just.. I'm fucking tired. I didn't even notice that, like.. christ. What the fuck is all of this? Hare: 100000% they tried to throw to kill bard 100000% they are an F3 100000% they just want us as big target shields to bring to F6 i should have seen this coming man, i know the two of us are both close with grogu, i think he's closer to you than he is to me, but when he gave me his boot order and he put "the returnee round" at F7, and now knowing cleric has a vote nullifier and grogu has a tiebreak winning item those bastards are trying to kill us, bees Bees?: Oh, yeah okay that makes sense. I follow now. Sorry, I'm having a real strong emotional reaction to everything right now. I haven't even gotten to the actual processing game shit planning. But okay, breathing. I'd forgotten about Cleric's item and all. And yeah, it seems like they just might be. But the question is, what do you want to do about it right now? Hare: We have a full 24 hours. There's no rush. I've got you, we're not flipping on each other. never. Well, at the moment we have no returnees on this tribe now do we so we can't really do anything about it right now except hope that we re-merge immediately and not at F7. You good to talk now? it's okay if you're not, I'm never voting you here, but if you are there's plenty of stuff we can talk about. Bees?: Yeah, I'm certainly not flipping on you. No, I need you. But also unfortunately, my item doesn't help us right now. Not in a meaningful way. It's time-sensitive which is really annoying. That is true, we might just end up getting Maggie out of exile. Like how much you wanna bet, that's gonna be the play? Good no, but I'd much rather talk now. And yes, there is a fair bit of stuff. Cuz now Avo is breaking silence to talk to me. I think if I understand correctly he's saying that he wants to vote for Bonobo and is calling a truce. Also says that Bonobo seems willing to vote for you, or possibly me as I've become complacent or something. Which honestly the PMs with Bonobo always have that so hmm. Bonobo before we were at TC did say this tribe was a weird one, he wasn't sure where he stood with you. Like yeah we voted out Lindsay together but does that mean that'll still be the thing here? Hare: Hahaha, really? Bonobo is full of monkey poop. Right now he is telling to me that he has no relationship with you, and no relationship with avocado so he's good to vote whoever. He can hide in a big merge by pretending to be mediocre friends with everyone and floating by, but in a tribe of four his entire game falls to shambles. Avocado is telling me the same thing about you. He says he doesn't trust bonobo either and that he does want to truce with you. I'm encouraging it because I mean I've already saved you from him twice now, it would be awesome if he could just stop slap fighting with you. I'm down to just do bonobo man. I don't know if we can trust him going into whatever's next. Avocado at least I can shoo him away from doing bad things if he tries it, but bonobo is just gonna do his own thing. Bees?: I mean, we don't have a relationship, that is actually true. We just had an agreement not to target each other previously, that was about it. And I think that's sorta expired at this point. But yeah like, I think you're right. What he's done in this game isn't really good enough to hide in when there's so few people. And he's not a person people are going to want as a pocket vote or end goat. I'll say one thing for Avo, he's never given me a deal or anything of the sort that he hasn't backed up with actions. I do find it funny that he keeps thinking I hate him though, like nah I don't hate him. I do find it funny that he just often won't PM me for days a time. I can't help but laugh at that regularly. I don't hate him, I just don't see a world that keeping him around is good for me. There's a difference there. I don't know that we can either. Ngl, I pictured you with a newspaper just whacking him when he's like "but bees?" and that does feel a little better. *sigh* but I do think I need to just, not do game for a while. But I'm with you here. Hare: Here's what I think might happen in this game if we keep avocado: If we remerge immediately, oh no we are immediately faced with a returnee crisis because they have a vote nullifier and a tiebreaker and if we dont break them up them now we all die. If we remege at F7 we're in a pretty terrible spot tbh because I don't know how any of us can make it to the end given how much power they have. we would just have to vote into one of them and hope we miss the guy with the tiebreaker, then on the revote cleric's vote nullifier expires and we have 3-2 majority over them. After that problem is solved, then the next narrative that will be pushed is oh no the maroon four three is still intact and its f7 almost f6 oh nooo they are going to endgame together. No one wants to endgame with bard, and no one likes avocado (i am pretty sure he was about to be a consensus vote if we hadn't gone into tribes). Obviously I'm with you and I know I don't stand a chance against them so it's not actually an F3 like the returnees are, but it's a way to get us both a round further in the game. You'll be in power that round since you won't be one of the options being considered, so we can just deal with avocado there if you want, or if bard is scarier we can do bard. and I'm relying on you to keep us safe that round. That last paragraph doesn't count if we remerge at F7, because lets be real i dont expect both bard and avocado both making it through another round of these tribes, especially if the returnees throw the challenge again. but if we kept bonobo its like.... who the heck knows. he's just going to continue to play a floater game i guess and i don't really feel comfortable bringing that further for you, I think avocado is an easy shield who literally cannot vote you out if he tried (and he has tried), whereas bonobo would gladly just go with the flow and vote off either of us as he continues to claim to everyone he has no relationship with anyone. Bees?: Okay so, thing is with Avo, you're right nobody likes him, but you know what that also means? He's a good goat cuz if everybody hates him, nobody's gonna vote him at the end, right? HOWEVER, that being said, I think you have a lot of solid points. I think that at least for this round, it might be smartest to just send Bonobo out. Cuz you're not wrong that he is hard to figure out what he's doing and all of that. I do think you have a different problem though if he stays, I think people are starting to look at you as the guy who gets shit done in the maroon group, cuz like you got the maggie counter right? So like, keeping Avocado could be bad for you because "well i guess T/H really is going to stay with Avo forever, huh?". But, I think you're right. At the very least, for this particular round it is smartest to leave Avo. That being said, if we're here in tribes again for whatever reason, I worry what keeping him a second time would do. Does that make sense? Hare: Yeah, and that's why I'm wary of avocado. If we go to tribes again and he makes it through another round, that's going to cause problems because now we're too close to endgame and people will start wanting to make bigger moves. I agree and want to vote avo next round if we are still in tribes. (which I assume sees maggie replace in from exile). I assume if the returnees throw again they will vote out bard and that also helps reduce the target on my back and increase the target on theirs. Grogu, in addition to being good with us, is also the one seen as the one who gets things moved around out of the returnees. I don't think anybody thinks rey or cleric is making moves, do they? And you just keep getting pushed as "the leader" of random votes that you approve of, the most recent example being rey calling you that. I think it's important for us to keep grogu (and bard?) around for that reason, both of them already have targets on their backs. Grogu moreso than bard. We can revisit this next round when we know if we are in tribes or not, because a lot depends on that. Bees?: Yeah, that's just.. no. That's a bad. And okay, I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page about it all. I do trust you, cuz we've been through some shit rounds and you have always had my back, which is what I keep shouting at that tiny paranoia voice. Cuz like, a lot of what you've done for me probably wasn't always in your best interest, so. And yeah, if we're still in tribes, that means Maggie ends up here. If we're not, that's a different can of fish. That is true, he is that. And no, Cleric is definitely just seen as a guy who is here now. Rey idk, she's definitely a voice that says a lot of things, but she's also a leaky faucet. Do not remind me God, that's just so stupid. But anyways, yes, I think you're right. Grogu is real good to keep around as a target for attention. Okay yeah, I agree. That's one of the frustrating thing about this game in particular. It is incredibly hard to make longterm plans, you can make ones for a round or two and MAYBE that'll work out for you, but well, odds are no. Hare: Hmm. Do you have a good read on Rey? My read on rey is like, we just say "yeah the vote is X" "yeah i heard that too" and we just exchange one-liners back and forth. I think she is close with maggie and maybe grogu, but that's all I really know about her. Do you know who she's loyal to/leaking to? There was one fun time last round where rey sent me a message like "Did you just tell grogu that I said that grogu said that I said that grogu wants to vote for bard? Becuase I never said that." When I counted the nested layers of the sentences it was four levels deep and i was like rey are you ok? And then she was like nevermind I misunderstood. To the best of my knowledge she did misunderstand because even though to this day I don't know what she was trying to say, the crux of it was "did you tell grogu [...]?" and at that point i had only asked questions to grogu so I knew the answer was no. also bonobo thinks the vote is on avocado, its a blindside i think, yeah Bees?: God no. I have no idea about Rey. Like, I think she just tells everybody everything. And if she hears anything, she'll just ask them while saying exactly where she heard whatever information. She's very straightforward and blunt. I've heard she's close to Maggie, but like I don't even know if that's right. She just feels like a floater. She might be close to Bonobo or something though? I don't even know, she's a mystery that is shockingly honest in a way that I find particularly concerning. She misunderstands things a lot, or will say stuff that she means just at facevalue that sound worse to anyone who thinks subtext is usually present. Yeah that sounds like my experience of Rey. The whole thing with me being the so-called leader of votes was weird cuz she was like "i'd heard it was you, but I figured you would have told me if it was." which felt weird. "Did you?" ".....maybe? no?" I did hear that, and he said it was cuz you were telling him that it was so it could be a blindside on Avo. Hare: yeah bonobo wanted to think that he was in charge so i was like "idk man, bees or avocado you know i could do whatever" -- you know, giving him a taste of his own noncommittal medicine, then from his response he clearly wanted avocado because he thinks avo/bard/cleric are this thing (i, knowing avo and bard, do not believe it to be a thing. maybe bard/cleric but also maybe not) so I just agreed with him, he said blindside? i said yeah sure blindside. honestly given how things are going i would not be too mad if the returnees threw again in the next challenge if we are in tribes for a second round, since losing bard isn't the worst thing for our games. plus there's a chance they compromise on a cleric or a rey or something. bonobo says he's maggie's closest ally, so maggie is soon to be looking for friends. there's only so many people maggie can be with at this point. Bees?: Mm, yeah I figured that's what happened. Wait, you can be noncommital in this game? Hm. I say as bees who have been at times good with whatever. I mean Avo/Bard makes sense. And I know there is thought that Cleric was brought in just to be a number in Avo's pocket, and like, to replace Droids since he got dropped. So yeah, I kinda get where his logic is coming from even if it's kinda dumb. Well it'll be a blindside one way or another, always was going to be. Neither would I. It might even be a good thing. And true enough, it could go in a really good way. Ah, well. Poor Maggie, she keeps losing all of her friends. Her options are very limited. Hare: I've asked bonobo to explain the "cleric is in the maroon 4 now" thing to me because i dont even get it myself cause i dont talk to cleric. i tried talking to her a bit like where you at in this game? And then she didn't respond and we swapped tribes. So that was a quality interaction. bonobo says that it's because HE asked cleric how they felt about avocado, and cleric said they are loyal to avocado in that they called themself an "investment" like they need to prove themself. so maybe i could see it, but also they haven't shown signs of co-ordinating on anything so i dont really know. that might have to do with cleric being kind of clueless overall...? but then how did they survive all the returnee areas and the returnee tribe and everything. I don't know man, my read on cleric is bad. Bees?: Ah. I think it's more like he's in Avo's pocket, right? So you MUST be involved completely. Cleric's just not super chatty. I was happy he was back at first, but then like... idk man, i got less happy when I wasn't sure the fuck he was doing. Oh right yes, of course. I mean, I can see Cleric feeling he owes Avo for that though. Like, that's actually... completely fair. Well the returnee area wasn't high gameplay remember? And then the next bit was challenge death matches, so they could have just been against bad people. I don't know where Cleric fits either.
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 23, 2021 0:22:23 GMT
Bard Bard: welcome back into the fray! or maybe its me comin back in the fray? i don't know that feels like math and im not up for it how u doin bees? Bees?: Last tribe certainly felt some kind of fray, that's for sure. No, I will not apologize for that pun. I had a lot of worry like, I felt like I was so screwed. But it seemed not to be the case. I'm.. okay. Today has been a bit long. How about you? Bard: well im glad to know its not the case! its been super intense the past few rounds, andbthe paranoia is getting really frustrating. Similar feelings on my end. Im about to head home from work (i normally finish 4 hours ago) and im ready for crappy fast food and then passing out. im sure weve had opposite experiences the past couple of days. it has been REMARKABLY quiet. im happy to have some people to chat with again Bees?: Paranoia is the woooorst. Definitely been fighting off a lot of that lately myself. Yeah I kinda saw what things were and bounced, worked out pretty nicely. Having a chill night was worth. Oh, it was still quiet. It was just also very tense because like, which people are just saying what somebody wants to hear and isn't actually being honest. It was a "fun" game to play. Bard: i highly know what you mean!! most of my pms go half answered by people and ive felt a bit cut off for a bit now. not to mention a really nervewracking set of challenge results. idk the winds startin to be taken out of me here but in tryin to stay up. Oh yeah i didnt come back til around now! last night was few pms but hey look at that im backlogged again. and by backlogged i really mean theres 3 pms to answer lmao but hey its something! mm that sounds worse than what i went through. zero game talk and possibly an attempted challenge throw. at least i got to watch some dumb horror movies! death proof was super cool (albeit a bit odd with the tarantino twists and what not) Bees?: Mm, yeah I've had that like all game. And a lot of the time it feels like it's been during rounds I could be in trouble so that's never felt super nice. I'm sure you'll do just fine sir Lol, that's been how my backlog has been. Oh no, I have so many PMs, all three of them. So like, idk, I think everybody is a little out of it and less present overall. Yeah, that looked wild, but you carried that whole tribe on your back. Oh yes, I know a bit about Death Proof, though I'm slightly more familiar with Planet Terror. I haven't seen either, but I'm aware of them. Bard: i dont think youre in trouble! well i dont know anyone thats about to come after the beesquestionmark anyways. and heck yeah typed the words dide the work and now theres like 20 minutes of free time to try and pm anything before passing out. now i tell myself its gonna be 20 minutes but i damn well know im gonna stay up late and thay 20 minutss becomes 30 becomes 40...shit ive felt a bit out of it the past couple of days but i think tomorrow im gonna have to hit the ground runnin if time decides to toss me a bone here. I was panicking in a discord chat with the mods during the challenge because all of the scans broke rules!! i was complaining so much holy shit. it took a while but it come together. i feel like avo has been pushing a returnees vote quite a bit. he hasnt told me much of a preference but i think hes been concerned about grogu for a bit. idk how i feel about that and I suspect i differ in opinion to avo here. im not sure how youre feeling on the round at all, but id love where youre at and hopefully we can coordinate! anyways i will see you tomorrow beeess. Bees?: 'm hoping not! Though, it seems we're doing a rehash of last round where I'm getting painted as the leader of some shit I wasn't even online to be involved in, so that's all sorts of fun. I do hope you manage to get enough sleep and all of that. Here's to hoping that you get more time today Haha, yeah uh, I didn't say anything at all to them about it. I was like "that was.... shockingly easy" which should have been a sign maybe. He is. 100% that's exactly what he's doing. During the tribe rounds I did the smart smile and nod agreement to keep him off my back in case there was another round in those tribes, but I think he's taking that to try to put my name on this needing to be a returnee round. I think this because I've had people ask me about it. And I'm really sick of it. I'm sure he's worried about Grogu, he's been zeroed in on the guy for a long while, part of the whole Grogu went home round, and I doubt they've cleaned anything up since Grogu came back. If it does turn out that people do think that the best course of action is a "returnee" which I don't think is a trio that actually exists as an actual thing, Cleric might be the easiest sell. That being said, it is not really what I want to do. I really would like to stop having so many whispers and rumours going around cuz so much of the game has been that and I'd like to get rid of it please. Bard: ya im not thinking youre leading some strong ass force to dump a returnee. i think its something that was easy to latch on to for multiple people and it carried forward. i sure didnt get time today but im hoping to be on until deadline here. So grogu came to me with the avocado vote idea. Im taking a touch of a leap but in guessing that may be where youre leading! (shit im doing the assumption thing again arent i?). i dont wanna vote him but im also not gonna go on the defensive or offensive or whatever thatd be. now I don't actually think the returnee trio exists either. it feels more like a fabrication because people are paranoid that any round could be their next and the returnees is a clearer grouping to point to. cleric is an easy sell because he seems to be mainly connected to avocado. he has said he was gonna go in the direction avo would go. but yes anyways, whispers and rumours are dumb. i try my best to be more direct but im sure ive fallen victim to and partook in rumours throughout this whole thing (again the assumptions lil bit!). its a game, rumours are dumb and a way that others try to control the narrative. Bees?: Oh probably, but I don't exactly like it, not one bit. I'm not leading it, but I certainly don't hate it. Not when I'm being told one thing to my face, and having my name used to further something he wants, and he's done this several times so far this game with me. It's definitely a fabrication, which seems to be the bread and butter of certain players in this merge. Cuz they keep doing it, repeatedly. And it's really annoying. Yes, yes they are. But some people seem to be very good at them, just very good. Bard: i do not blame you one bit for not liking it. that kinda thing is what makes someone anxious for a whole night. i dont like playin the game with goals of making people anxious so they do something your way ya know? yeah avo is hamfisted when it comes to attempting subtly or passing around information. it also helps make him predictable in what hes gonna do. i havent told him about the push thats happening against him so hes in the dark. i really think he expects this is between cleric and rey or something. i feel like im an old school player or something seeing the level of info fudging going on. what happened to talking to people like theyve actually got personal agency and a brain?? i mean i love you all and the game is fun but goodness we are all respectable people here, show some of that respect. not snide comments when someone is getting voted out and shit. sorry if im getting a bit too into meta here, it feels just so different than it used to be and im still trying to grasp why people play the way they do now. Bees?: Ha, it's been making me anxious for most of this game man. Like *ugh*. And no, I think that's a really shit way to play. Yes, yes he is. But it does often mean that if you know Avo is gonna do that, sometimes I'm not surprised if there's other stuff going on underneath it, much like that half-attempt to blindside me, ya know? Like mm, it makes me very suspicious a lot. He probably does, but I don't know. A lot of people talk about a lot of stuff. Wait, I'm sorry, you want to talk to people like they're people? What. You can do that? Like, people are allowed to play their own games? Are you sure? Hmm. Yeah, I feel that. Nah, I get what you mean. I don't really know why a lot of play happens the way that it does. It might be an influx of people who try to play this game like it's a pure strategy game where you assume that at the end of the day everyone knows it's just a game so feelings aren't a part of it all. Which is like mm no, that's stupid, what? Bard: oh my god the past 5 minutes has been like whiplash. i gotta do a irl thing but i guess im in on th now sorry for shit response! i will absolutely get back to you more later Bees?: Yeah uh, it's been some chaos. Like idek man. Yeah, let's talk later. Bard: yes pleas we will im gonna monch sausages and come back after deadkine! i will see u soon Bees?: Ooo, sausages are good choices. Enjoy Avocado Avocado: okay sick im glad that we got that shit worked out. i guess we can like. do whatever we feel like for the next few rounds, then after we get rid a the most pertinent threats to our game we can come back and discuss how to handle that shit. idk maybe im just making false promises and were only coordinating for this vote (or youre trying to kill me and i have no idea) but i think that these next two rounds kinda need to happen or were both up the creek without a paddle this is gonna be so chill. im happy were actually talkin shit out instead a stayin away from each other (primarily my fault tbh) Bees?: Lol, honestly I'm not even surprised you pulled out the idol again. That's kinda funny. I meant what I said, I was pretty I needed you, so I was voting with you. And I think you may be right, we may be in a position of being fucked without some very specific votes. Well, keep talking to me. Like, you know I will always talk and I'm pretty honest with you about what I think and am doing. Avocado: i mean if i got the juicy slick numbers ima keep guessin em. maybe if bonobo wanted to stay in the game he should have been better at guessing lol. im meaning what i say about wanting to stick with you moving through the next few votes cos weve got that shit to settle with other people. like right now we DEFINITELY need to gun for a returnee cos theyve got a vote nullifier and a tiebreaker item. if all three a them make it to the f7 then we are so fucked its insane since they know they can only win with each other. pretty sure bard and t/h know that too. maggie will have to have a bit of work done to be brought onto the same page but shes definitely smart when it comes down to it i still cant believe were at the point where only 5 of us have never been voted out. you me t/h maggie and bard. hot damn Bees?: Lol I mean, that's fair. If only he could have been better at guessing, but alas here we are. Yeah okay, you are right that we do. Yeah true enough. But the question then becomes, which one? I think of the things left, the vote nullifer might be the bigger problem, no? Like tiebreaker item is situational and may never be relevant. Vote nullifer definitely is. That is kind of insane. This game has been insane. Avocado: true. i think regardless of which returnee we take out itll at least be a half decent move as long as we take out one of them. cleric is the least connected outta all of them and might create the least problems by being voted out (plus theyve got that vote nullifier). rey has potential advantages and idols that could prove to be difficult to deal with later in the game, and grogu is undoubtedly the biggest player over on that side either way and might be the biggest liability down the line if he feels threatened. you DID see what happened in his tribal after all i guess it just depends on what you and i think? im pretty sure maggie is reasonable and recognizes when something poses that sort of threat (eg the tiebreaker and nullifier), and im also relatively sure bard and t/h can be pulled in to make it five. so really weve got our choice of who to target this round. i wanna see how immunity plays out first tho Bees?: True enough. That's kinda where I'm at with it all. I do remember that tribal, yes. Quite well. I think Maggie will do what is smartest for her, she pretty much always has. So it might depend on what she thinks is smartest for her, it might not be the same thing you and I think. And I agree, I also want to see what happens with immunity. Avocado: okay sick it seems like were on the same page then. note that this isnt me like. tryna squeeze a name outta you only to throw you under the bus. i really am serious about this returnee shit and wanting to prove that we can work together for at least one or two rounds or some shit. its more like. i dont wanna throw out anything that youd be uncomfortable with so id just prefer for us to talk shit out about what we think the best move for the two a us moving forward should be? what do you mean by that? i feel like maggie knows that the returnees know that they have the best chance of winning with each other cos the other five a us that havent been voted out yet are obviously gonna be favored by the jury over someone who has been voted out Bees?: Yeah, no I get that. I know you really think a returnee is the way to go, and I understand your reasoning for it. I also appreciate that. It seems like we have quite a lot of options there. I am unsure which might be the smartest. Oh, just that I don't think maggie is somebody that is going to do anything that she doesn't feel she needs to do. So getting her on board with a vote may need to be done carefully. That's all. Avocado: i mean i dont wanna lord shit over you or try to give you commands if you aint feelin that. my number one and only goal this round is to make it to the f7 or f6 so i can say that i was in the top fourth a the game if youre feelin me there? i woke up and went through my pms and it seems like there are already whispers of cleric bein the consensus vote here just to weaken the returnees so we dont get a potential uprising next round and im wondering if youve heard the same thing tbh i think that my relationship with maggie is good enough to get her on board for at least a round or two. she has immunity so that might make her bolder and more willin to make a move that will reduce the risk a bein taken out next round so we could count on her bein brought over Bees?: Yeah, I understand. I don't really want to be given commands, no And yeah, I get that. It's an accomplishment. I've also heard those whispers. As he's got the item people seem most concerned about over all. And yeah, that's basically it. Though I've mostly only heard from the people you would have. It's been a quiet round. True enough, she definitely seems willing to talk this round out, so that's promising. Lowering threat levels seem ideal. Avocado: i mean. is your preferred option cleric? id like to get your opinion on this stuff at least so that if we have any real disagreements we can just work em out and shit like that so we stay chill. this isnt me tryna make you spit out a name or anything its just me wondering if youre cool with makin this an easy consensus vote so that theres not a shit ton a scrambling near the deadline or anything. lord knows people are burnt out and we need an easy cool round to relax. (also cleric i think poses the biggest risk a takin up a potential f3 spot cos he was called the goat for a reason) its been quiet for you too? that makes me feel a lot better at least. i thought i was the only one tryna interact with shit and meetin a few walls but half the tribe hasnt gotten back to me yet ay did you vote for t/h with me and maggie? the returnees have WAY more items than i thought they would and they didnt even use them all. so no matter how much we disagree with each other and are separated we NEED to work together this round otherwise they will f*** us over with a nullifier and a tiebreaker item and then run the rest of the game Bees?: I did, yes. I was always planning to follow Maggie this round. When were you brought in on the whole deal? And yeah like we're pretty fucked in a lot of ways so it's pretty fun and exciting, no? Avocado: i was brought in like maybe an hour or so before the vote happened? ima be honest with you i KIND of was like. not very fond of you cos i felt like you werent giving me much but i think that we both know that we need to work together otherwise the returnees have a VERY clear path to the end that will f*** us over. i am willing to put all of our beef behind us if you are cos i think that selling each other out gets us nowhere the only way i can actually see us winning this round is if maggie uses her extra vote and we all coordinate for the idol. theoretically the people who havent been voted out make up the majority of the game so we CAN score that prime number idol if we want to i think? we should also probably make an alliance chat together for this round if youre ok with it Bees?: Yeah that tracks. I was wondering if it was when Maggie told me she was planning to tell other people what her intentions were for the vote. I mean, I get that? And I'll be honest, I was only giving you so much because of how often this game has had people taking things I say to try to push narratives with my name which aren't happening. And yes, we do need to do some work together, cuz that was quite a surprise I didn't expect in the slightest. And no, selling each other out hasn't really been working for us, huh? Coordinating for the idol is definitely the way to go. A thing to remember also is that with Bard out, Rey should have had her shards convert into an idol unless he gave his shards to somebody else. And we probably could, yeah. With who all? Just those of us who haven't been voted out before? Avocado: yeah that seems to be around the time? i forget the exact time frame but it was around the end of the phase when she told me that cleric wouldnt be gaining any traction. but i totally understand you not wanting to give that much and i apologize for makin you feel that way. i think the important thing to remember here is that we NEED to stick together at least for this round otherwise we get f***ed. im totally okay if you think the play is to like. vote me out or whatever later down the line at f6 or f5 since i cant win challenges for shit but still. so i promise not to sell you out if you promise not to do it with me cos we have to stay together otherwise returnees wreck shit ok ok ok thats what i was thinkin too. we HAVE four so were guaranteed to get the idol if we work together for it. i personally dont think it matters who it goes to anyways, we just need to be absolutely sure that we have that on our side and yeah thats basically what i mean. all the returnees know that their best chance at the end is with each other (and tbh i dont blame them) but that means that the rest of us have to stay together man also bard did not give me either of their idol shards. we got totally blindsided by that vote and were expecting t/h to go. my count is that rey might have ONE idol at most, but maggie also has another idol shard that dave gave to her which prevents rey from having 2. so all we need to do is play this round really smart and hope to god the returnees dont f*** us over Bees?: I mean, we've not exactly been friends for a while now, and you do tend to use anything in your arsenal to keep yourself alive, which I do respect, I was just tired of giving you more things. And you're right, we do need to do that if we aren't going to get completely steam-rolled, and I'm not about that. That is true, we do, and we can make it happen. It probably doesn't matter who has it, no. yeah, the thing is, are people willing to do it after the mess of that last round and a lot of the mess this merge has been? Wait, he had more than one? Huh. And yeah, I was expecting it to be t/h. Yeah well, we can see. Avocado: i meaaaan thats an entirely fair criticism and i will take that. but to be fair i HAVE been a target for a while now so its not like i have any option but to play that way. fwiw i did wanna chill with you and i was genuinely extending the olive branch to work together but you didnt really have much reason to believe me so its entirely fair. i cant promise you a f3 deal or that we'll go to the end together but i think at least we both know that were screwed if we dont stick together for this round alone actually f*** it im gonna make an alliance with all of the living people and we can see how to work things out there. last round was a mess big time and we need to recover Bees?: Oh I know you have been, which is why I can't really blame you for it and why I respect it. I just didn't wanna add more. Yeah it was also in a round where you had nothing to lose cuz you also had the idol so like, it didn't quite feel as much of an olive branch as much as a "you wanna live, you know what you gotta do, huh?". Oh if you did offer me an f3 deal, I would instantly not trust you. Like nah, we haven't fixed things well enough where either of us would trust that, come on. But yes, we need each other this round. I think the rest of us were waiting to see who would make the move first, which tracks that it would be you. And it was a huge mess, yes. Avocado: yo what up bees. youve heard the shit about goin for cleric right? thats where my vote is locked in rn at least ALSO i heard that my idol got leaked to the returnees which makes me paranoid af. do you think one of t/h or maggie did it? Bees?: I did yes, my vote is already there. Yeah, I also heard that. It's entirely possible. I mean the fact that you came up with a plan to have the idol among the 4 of us, and then went and took the idol for yourself probably didn't sit well with people trying to trust you and that you wouldn't be making a move on them. So like idk man. Avocado: hi i understand im kinda a asshole for what happened last tribal and you didnt deserve it. idk im wonderin what you wanna do here cos i dont have much options or choice in the matter either way. shit dude idk if you still wanna work with me you can respond to this message if not thats cool too Bees?: I mean, yeah, you really are and no, I didn't. But that's how you chose to play, so that's just how it be. I was actually trying to give you an opportunity to show you actually trusted in other people and weren't all about yourself, but that didn't work out huh? Like what were you thinking dude? Were you just trying to get through the next round and not the one after? Cuz it kinda seems like everything you're doing is just to get a single round further, fuck any further plans. Dude, how can I trust a single thing you say after last round? Between going against a plan you made, and then deciding to leak all of everything everywhere to make everybody except possibly yourself look bad, like there's no fixing that dude. There's just not. Time and time again trusting you with anything ever has been a mistake. So, that's where I'm at. Avocado: hahaha ok. good talk my dude. i think you should take a chill pill or something but otherwise thats fair
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...Bees?
Jury
Cloudy with a chance of bees.
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Post by ...Bees? on Feb 23, 2021 0:33:32 GMT
Cleric Bees?: Hello friend, it's nice to see you again How was your little stint away? Cleric: It was amazing. We all had some talks, a good laugh, then Bard completely carried our team. I tried to get a 4-person tribe chat going but people didn't like that for some reason. Bees?: Lol, yeah Bard probably felt he had to else he'd end up leaving. Oh, oh dear. Yeah uh, most people don't particularly enjoy a group chat when they haven't agreed to work with everybody involved. Cleric: Bard ROCKED the challenge. Like damn, I would have gotten a better score if I just answered Successful for every single scan. Grogu said I was wildin' and I hope the good kind of wildin Bees?: Apparently yeah. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. Cleric: So anyways, what was it like in the other tribe? Bees?: STRESS. Like, it was all very much a case of everybody telling people what they probably wanted to hear, but which one is actually the truth? All while I have a sneaky suspicion that Avo has an idol so if I wanna be safe, I gotta follow along. So yeah, it was unanimous and made of stress. Cleric: I'd imagine it was a panic over there, yeah. It didn't seem like any clear person was gonna be voted out. Also everyone thinks of me as a goat now, so I think my chances of winning the game just dropped. lmao. I'll vote myself out before I get to f3. Bees?: Yeah, I wasn't really sure what was going to happen. But I lived, so I'm happy. I'll be honest, I don't think you're a goat, but I was pretty sure that other people would think that. I think you were voted out first and survived the gauntlet that was returneeland, and came back twice. I think for some people that puts you as both a threat but also not at all. It depends on what the people viewing you value in game play. Cleric: I guess so, but if everyone here thinks that, then I guess I gotta prove something ! It seems like this is a returnee gunner round lmao. Bees?: I don't think it has to be though. Like, I think there's other possibilities to try. Cleric: Like what? People are super scared of the returnees and I haven't heard an alternative. And by people, I mean avo/Bard/Th telling me. Bees?: Yeah no, there's a reason why they're telling you that. Cuz they're the ones pushing for a returnee round. Maggie isn't sure what it is she wants to do. It's entirely possible that if we all band together against that three and take one of them out, we're in a much better position long term. Like, straight up, they're worried of you due to items, which they don't have. The people pushing the oh no scary returnees are only that small group. Cleric: Well I finally got off work, so, who do you think it's safer to turn this around on? Funny they're worried about items, i'm pretty sure there's still people who opened boxes and we don't know their advantages. Bees?: Alright well, I honestly think that there could be enough people willing to do either Avo or Bard. It kinda sounds a bit like you might be in trouble outside of that though cuz nobody is saying anything against you being the target. It's been sold to me by Avo and T/H by you having a vote nullifier. So like, the target seems squarely on you unless something happens to one of that trio. Cleric: Sounds good then, i'm on board with an Avo/Bard vote. I can't fucking believe that Bard told everyone about my vote null. Bees?: I didn't hear about it from Bard, I heard about it from T/H and Avo. So yeah, like it's kinda being used as justification to vote you and be scared of you. Which, is some garbage. Cleric: I'm hearing so many conflicting stories this is the weirdest Tribal. First i'm hearing Avo/Bard are going behind my back telling everyone i'm untrustworthy now they all wanna vote me out, even though they told me they're all voting Grogu and now TH is saying all the returnees are voting me. Bees?: Thank you, I knew there was an attempted blindside somewhere that they were likely going to be trying to use your vote for, I just wasn't sure if it was on me or Grogu. So, I've been being told this whole round that it's a returnee round, and has to be. And gosh voting you out is the best move to make and frankly the only move. Because a) you have that vote nullifer, and b) you're clearly going to be brought along as a goat. I have not heard that the returnees are voting you, in fact, the returnees have said that they don't want to make this be a returnee round, and would like to do something else. I have only heard you as the target from T/H and Avocado. Now, i know that the two of them are known for pulling last minute vote changes if they hear about stuff. Cleric: The best I can hope for is to tie next round, I don't understand why everyone so scared of my vote null. And uh, I'm confused, are you voting me? Or are we still flipping this on Avo. Bees?: I am not voting you. My vote has been on Avo for a while now. I don't know why they're scared of it either, except they're also worried about a returnee trio alliance, so if y'all have items oh no, you control everything now, don't you? Cleric: Well that's a relief. Yeah i'm voting Avo now. This whole situation feels like the Dave TC. Where everyone was scared of the idea more than the actual person. Bees?: Yep, that's exactly what a lot of this seems to be. It's all whispers and rumours and the idea of something rather than actually dealing with and focusing on the reality of a situation. Cleric: Ok well i'm just gonna grin and bear it then. I searched up "Cat's eating Avocado" but I think they're harmful to cats so here's a cat eating lettuce (A known green vegetable, like avocado) cat-gifs.com never disappoints. Bees?: Do let me know if you hear anything else though, yeah? Cuz like, this round is feeling super weird in a way I don't exactly like. That cat does not look like it's enjoying itself. Then again, cats largely only eat green things to clean their teeth or aid digestion, so hm. Cleric: People are being openly deceptive to a point where I don't believe anyone, it's a bad feeling. I blame soley TH and Avo lol. I'm voting Avo but I think I have to come to a reality where me getting voted out this TC is very likely. Bees?: My advice is to talk to Maggie, and follow what Maggie is doing. Cuz if we're going to have a world where it's not just you or that Grogu blindside, it'll need Maggie to be involved. Do you trust me at all? Cleric: And I had fun Bees! You were the person I like to talk to the most here, Next to Bard,( but hell everyone likes Bard.). I voted you for funniest and I enjoyed our cat sending sessions. I hope you make it to F3, cause some Medieval style assassinations will occur. Yeah I trust you, i'm also talking to Maggie. I hope she does too. Bees?: I'm glad you've enjoyed talking, I've liked it too. You have all sorts of good cats. But I think there is a possibility that it isn't just you who goes here. And I'm hoping anyways. Cleric: Maggie wants T&H? :/ Apparently cause T&H keeps spreading lies. Although that's really true lol. Bees?: It is really true. And yeah, it does seem that she wants to do it. Honestly though, I can see the reasonings for it. So I'm going to follow her with this. Cleric: They were really fun to talk to before they kept trying to alienate me. Like, they told me everyone keeps throwing me under the bus, and that everyone's against me. Mean scare tactics! They must be good Survivor players lol. Bees?: Yeah, I've really liked them, but like yeah they're pretty good. They've been very good at misinformation a lot. But they also leak information a lot, so like hmmm. They make a lot of their worries a reality. Cleric: My favourite conversation was them explaining why they liked the pipe puzzle so much. The mind blowing fact that instead of rotating, you *draw over* the pipes Bees?: I mean they were incredibly cute when they were talking about the puzzle. Like just adorable. And they've been pretty funny now and then. Which kinda sucks but like that's the game, and they've definitely done some things I haven't exactly liked so like hm. Cleric: My favourite was asking them this very important, super top secret question, that no one should know: Who won the race? Bees?: I bet you they were in on it together, had a shady deal where they would make sure that Tortoise would win, so that they could split the winnings of all the bets every other animal made. Cleric: Taking the fall! Classic! Seeing how they play Survivor, I wouldn't doubt! Bees?: Exactly! See you understand my theory. Cleric: i changed last minute i hope this is worth it Bees?: Who suggested that you change? Cleric: Grogu, I think he was pissed about being such a fucking target to Bard/Avo. He said there's enough votes and all he needed was my vote null. Bard is a huge threat, sorry I went back on the plan. It was just the perfect opportunity, especially after last failed coup. I heard about it in the last 5 minutes too, and my thinking was that it was either him or me. Bees?: No dude, hey, I don't even mind. Like, I would have also voted for Bard but nobody told me. I'm not surprised Grogu told you about it, and yeah like he kept being a target and all of that, so like I get it. I ain't even mad. Well, like a tiny bit because I didn't get to actually hear about the vote til after the fact but well. Cleric: I wanted to make sure I wasn't being fucked over by Grogu. It was super last minute, so yeah sorry. I wasn't saying all that shit about T&H to put on a show lol. But man, now that the challenge beast is out, I feel like a power vacuum has formed. Although Bard was incredibly fun to talk to . Bees?: I know man, I get it. I do wish you would have talked to me about it, but like, I get it completely. I'm not even super mad, but sounds like the last bit was wild. And I know, that doesn't seem to be your deal. Oh quite probably, I'm sure everyone is going to be scrambling here to pick up the pieces. He was I'm sad, we hadn't gotten to talk much in a while. Cleric: Well, talking to Avo is going to be incredibly awkward now. Have you ever had to converse to someone after you backstabbed them? What do you say? Bees?: Well, talking to Avo is going to be incredibly awkward now. Have you ever had to converse to someone after you backstabbed them? What do you say? Cleric: Well, time will tell. T&H is telling me Maggie's been running the game so far, and that Maggie was always allied with Bard? Bees?: True enough. Hm. Interesting. It's possible that the two of them were friends, yes. I don't know if they were friends forever though. Cleric: Yeah, i'm guessing being openly allied with the no.1 person can put you in the spotlight. also i watched bee movie again, cause it was just on Tv lol, and oh my god, some of those scenes. It's sooo weird. Bees?: I mean yeah, when people call you a pair with somebody, that's gonna get you some focus a lot. Haha. So I signed up as Bees without remembering that oh no, people are going to make Bee Movie jokes, and then I was given this avatar. I've just been resigned to it at this point. I was thinking of the Cards Against Humanity card man. Cleric: cards against humanities? ohhh! I remember... that's a card right? I overplayed that game and it's no longer fun, it's so sad. That game was crazy popular when I went to highschool. Have you seen Bee Movie? I try to do annual viewings. Bees?: Yes! it is a card. A very well-played one. How is it no longer fun? Do you just... only use the base games then? Cuz yeah if it's the same cards and that's all you ever have, that's hella lame. But custom decks used to exist and those were always fun. I have, yes. It was my brother's favourite movie for a while when he was small, and he would put it on every single fucking day. I am far too familiar. Cleric: No, you don't understand. I have like 4 expansion packs They were fucking expensive! (For just cards!!!??). That game used to play every party, after school, lunch break, recess. We found a game we liked too much and now we're sick of it. Hahaha, I used to hang out with a friend who'd also babysit. The kid LOOOVED Bee movie. Reminds of the parent in Ireland who's the no.1 watcher of Bee movie. Just a mother who puts it on for her Kid literally every day. Bees?: Oh huh. I mean yeah they were. But even then, like I guess if you play with the same people I can see how it would get hella boring. Rip that. Poor game. It's really just kids who don't think about it too much who seem to like bee movie. But the moment you think about anything it just falls apart and needs to stop. Cleric: I was so ready to sit at my computer and lay bricks for like 8 hours. I bought chips, pop, and even found some caffeine pills. Then I get last because "termed a crawler" is a BULLSHIT clue. The mods are cruel. I wonder how many bricks I could have laid in one sitting of Bee Movie. Bees?: Lol yup, so was I. I was so ready, and then oh, it's fakeout, okay. I'll admit, what I did was just google up a list of construction trucks and then fit the ones that had the right letters and all that sorta fit the clues. The mods are very cruel, yes. More than enough I am sure. Cleric: I did that too! And I'm glad I did cause I never heard of a backhoe before. Or a grader. Well, at least it wasn't Sudoku again. I apparently have the absolute inability to complete a sudoku puzzle. My patron must have never read a newspaper. Bees?: I've heard of a backhoe, but I never would have considered what they have to be a bucket. So I'm a little miffed at that clue. Grader I knew cuz my parent's road gets a lot done to it regularly for traction reasons. At least it wasn't that. Sudoku is a pain sometimes, and not one I'm fast at. Apparently not. You should suggest that they do next time I think. Cleric: Jesus, that was a close one. Yeah sorry, weekends are shitty and I can be inactive during them. I'm guessing that was why I was targeted? So yeah sorry for not saying anything recently. also yeah, bucket was a weird clue. I only got it cause it was the only word that fit. Bees?: It definitely was, yes. And yeah, it was a lot of that. And Avo having the idol and people knowing meant he wasn't an option. It's whatever man, I getchu How are you doing?
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