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Post by The Tortoise & The Hare on Feb 27, 2021 6:43:44 GMT
Maggie Smith
i really dont know what opener to send to maggie and doesn't seem right Damn, you're vicious. You went from UTR social mastermind to OTT game exploded cannot reach endgame in a single round and it was all because we didn't fit into your plans. Sending Bonobo home was the critical chess piece that brought us all the way to the final four, and I'm pretty sure we were your Bonobo this game.
You were perfectly justified taking a shot at us, I mean the only reason you didn't die to bard's idol is because I didn't think of the plan 2 minutes earlier or I would have gotten a third person in on it. We both missed our shots on one another and eventually you got taken out and it wasn't even by me. It was even on a round where I wanted to protect you to stop the actual imminent threat of the returnees taking over the game, which we are currently in the process of correcting.
There were many opportunites to save you -- Avo told me he was sniping the idol and I could have taken it and used it on you like I originally predicted you needed it. I also had a suspicion grogu was a traitor and I thought maybe we should flip votes to rey - but I didn't act on that either.
In the end, I think we were both selling each other out behind our backs, so I think not saving you was the right move. We probably would just have gone after each other at F6 anyways.
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Post by The Tortoise & The Hare on Feb 27, 2021 8:17:07 GMT
...Bees?
bees here is basically the key to our entire game, they have to work with us to convince people the returnees are an imminent problem next round or i think we're SOL (Sadly Out of Luck) Everybody is probably going to say that you're a super great and nice person in their torchwalks so I'll get that out of the way first. Except maybe avoacdo... lol.
Despite how we ended on great terms, I think we had a somewhat stressed relationship through most of the game. Maroon was stressful because we were convinced we needed you gone, until grogu self destructed and we wanted him gone instead. And when i say grogu self destructed, well really that was mostly just us destroying his reputation and exaggerating what he did and somehow suffering no consequences whatsoever and somehow having it all pinned on you. idrk. Anyways.
On the red tribe you helped save us from dave's wacky PM shenanigans, and we got a bit closer there. But learning about your dave connection was upsetting, and put us on opposite sides when the merge came. We shot down the blindside on you that droids suggested, but our relationship was kind of shrouded in uncertainty until dave left due to the spectre of you two working together. And even after dave left, it was extremely obvious that you and grogu were #1 allies, since everything we said to you got leaked back to him within a few minutes. It wasn't until F7 that you didn't leak the idol coordination alliance to grogu that we began to actually trust you a little bit, then at F6 when you revealed the item we finally were able to fully trust you ---- and it was too late, your game was already over.
It was a weird game man. I don't think i've ever had a relationship quite like this in any game.
Oh yeah... thanks for that item by the way. I think we used it to make the best play of the game: co-ordinating grogu to get the idol, then yeeting him right out of the game
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Post by The Tortoise & The Hare on Feb 27, 2021 8:17:54 GMT
Cleric
We offered to work with you and you awkwardly dodged it. I could have easily forced avocado's hand and had him duel rey that round. Because you turned us down, now you're sitting on jury.
The lesson to learn here: putting all your trust in one alliance is always a misplay, even if they control all the items in the game.
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Post by The Tortoise & The Hare on Feb 27, 2021 8:18:31 GMT
Dark Rey
I'm actually kind of new myself, though not really at this point. I am inclined to want to see other new people do well. Sometimes I feel like I'm both under and over playing lol. Worrying if I'm doing too much or not enough. oh fantastic, it's tris. killing dark rey might be harder than i thought Playing against you is frustrating - it's like you've found a cheat code in survivor. Somehow get to merge, be loyal to a small group, then just stop logging on and skirt to the end, and no one will notice you. I had three clear shots at you in this game, and I didn't pull the trigger on any of them.
One on the ranger vote, one on the maggie vote, and one on the droids vote -- although that last one was kind of sketchy and doesn't really count. Despite this, I think I found a good way to use you to my advantage, in that in perpetually targeting you, it allowed me to let my allies cut each other without me getting any blood on my hands, or raising my threat level at all.
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Post by The Tortoise & The Hare on Feb 27, 2021 9:13:10 GMT
Grogu
Friendship ended with every other person in the game; grogu is my only friend now I would say you were the single most important player in this game.
Voting you off was the event that created and solidified the maroon 4 alliance. I sold you out so hard and wrote walls tearing your reputation to shreds to everyone, because I can recognize the manipulative language you're capable of using and I wanted no part in it. Everyone on that tribe bonded strongly together over voting you out.
And then you came back. We aligned with you closely, and one by one, so did bees, and so did droids, and so did bard. It seems that avocado was the only one you couldn't crack. You were immediately put in the power position of swing vote between the two major voting blocks of the game, and dictated which way the vote would fall. When the two sides crumbled, you piloted the returnees alliance, taking out bard to secure yourselves two idols on top of all the random crap you guys got from returnee land and the auction. Then once bonobo was gone you kinda just brute forced the next THREE (!) votes according to your will VIA all the items you had. So thank goodness we were on good terms with you, sheesh.
We noticed also that before the swap, your "ideal F6" of {bard/bonobo/grogu/th/bees/rey} was just all the people you talked to, and your ideal boot order had the "returnee round" at F7 when you had like 50 items to stop that and just bruteforce your way to the end with them. Despite desperately trying to convince everyone you were not trying to go to the end with three returnees. And you had cleric and rey under your thumb with the whole "returnees can't win" narrative you had them buy into.
The fact that you're trying to sell to me that you played a bad game and returnees can't win is so bad it's laughable.
We've been working against you and trying to take a shot at you since at least F8, but all your items and army of goats never let us have the chance to do it. So, I hope we can finally take the killshot here, as they say in hive. I'm probably still missing stuff about your game that I just forgot to write. You are so scary. Please do not win immunity here. Please come in fourth.
If I can take you out in firemaking here, I will be so happy to add that to my collection of BigMoves, and I think that should bring us the game.
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Post by The Tortoise & The Hare on Feb 27, 2021 9:40:25 GMT
Avocado
HOLY SHIT BRUH WE MADE F4 ONE OF US IS GONNA MAKE FTC AT LEAST GREEDY ASS GROGU THAT PLAY WAS INSANE MY GUY THAT WAS THE FUCKING GREATEST MOVE IVE EVER SEEN HARE HOLY SHIT TOLD YOU BRO THIS WAS THE PLAY OF THE GAME ONE OF US IS WINNING THIS ENTIRE THING HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GROGU'S GREED WAS HIS UNDOING There are 13 pages of posts in my confessional referencing you. Some of them bad, some of them good. But we made it here together, lmao. Despite all our crazy misplays and good plays and liking each other and dislikeing each other and even you voting for me once.
When we first met you on chocolate, we said yep, this guy is ally material. He's totally going to crash and burn early-mid merge, but until then we ride with him all the way there. The game stagnated a little bit between us with us just voting off AFKs and stuff, but once we really got back into it, we just hit the gas and never stopped. At merge we formed that F2 early on, initiated by you. We still had the same idea, that you would burn out sometime in the next few rounds and implode. But you never did. Instead people like droids and dave got pegged as the leaders of our alliances and we got by them. Scheming up that maggie vote in the last 3 minutes of the deadline was some of the most fun I ever had in a survivor game. If we had pulled it off.... man it would have been epic. Pooling all the pennies to get you to choose the returnee was fun too, still no idea what really happened there though. lol. Then co-ordinating with you to get the idol was awesome every time. Taking out Bonobo was a great play, maybe not for you but it was for me. It was such a satisfying blindside and it really benenefitted me going fowards cause it got rid of a goat. It was also really funny how as soon as we started thinking about turning on bard he ate an idol or double vote mess or whatever that round was, idrk. When you stole the idol from bees it was funny but really maggie needed it but man, we made it work out in the end. It's ok that maggie is gone, she was just gonna turn on me anyways man. And that one time earlier when you brought back cleric and then instantly redeemed yourself by getting the idol. Then you took out bees and we manipulated it so that I got his item and my man we pulled off the aboslute play of the game when we gave grogu the idol by guessing low numbers and then yeeted him into exile.
For this upcoming FTC, I think we have you covered in almost every department for moves made.
But it's just so much more satisfying of an ending, whichever of us wins, if we take out the big yoda who was calling the shots this whole bloody game.
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Post by The Tortoise & The Hare on Feb 27, 2021 9:40:46 GMT
Tortoise
Tortoise on discord: this side is something I miss when playing I don't tend to be very "in your face" so it's great to see it actually working I would just throw avocado under the bus entirely probalby and then have the bus go in reverse to run him over again I find it funny how you had to deal with more drama IRL than in this game. I'm super glad that even though you were super busy and would not have lasted past like two tribes on your own in this game due to activity, you were able to hydra with me and get the full survivor experience though me doing the PMing and the two of us doing the strategizing in our daily midnight war room sessions. You said it best when you said you were the manager and I was the player. We worked together perfectly, aligning on the important things and taking a very objective and calculated look at the game, as opposed to playing on who we personally liked and disliked. We showed a mastery of the survivor paradox in our combined gameplay: it doesn't matter what you think of anybody, it matters what they think of you. Having you there to keep me accountable for my moves was a fantastic deterrant from doing anything stupid, and having you deal with all the endurance and creative challenges was great 'cause I didn't have to do any of them myself
Playing this game was a great experience with you and it was so much better than going at it alone.
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