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Post by Supervisor Silverclaw on Feb 28, 2021 6:55:40 GMT
Please ask questions to Avocado here.
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Post by Dave Thomas Mayor of Ponderosa on Mar 2, 2021 1:17:37 GMT
Hello. I have not read opening statements yet and am coming into this with an open mind.
That being said while we have all been voted out, that doesn't mean we aren't entitled to respect. If at any time starting now you refer to me by anything other than "Dave Thomas, Founder of Wendy's" or "Dave Thomas, Mayor of Ponderosa" you will automatically lose my vote.
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Post by Avocado on Mar 2, 2021 1:18:44 GMT
Hello. I have not read opening statements yet and am coming into this with an open mind. That being said while we have all been voted out, that doesn't mean we aren't entitled to respect. If at any time starting now you refer to me by anything other than "Dave Thomas, Founder of Wendy's" or "Dave Thomas, Mayor of Ponderosa" you will automatically lose my vote.does capitalization matter
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Post by Dave Thomas Mayor of Ponderosa on Mar 2, 2021 1:20:16 GMT
Capitalization does not but punctuation does.
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Post by Avocado on Mar 2, 2021 1:20:55 GMT
sick thanks dave thomas, mayor of ponderosa
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Post by Bard on Mar 2, 2021 1:35:32 GMT
Hey dude! Long time no see. I gotta say I'm proud of you for making it here! Thats a huge accomplishment in Survivor and you should be proud of that. With that said, this may be an uphill battle for you.
I have tried reading your opening speech but good lord is it long-winded as frick, dude. So for my first question:
Kindly, can you please point to the 3 best moves you feel you made this game? Preferably with some explanations of why they are that way of course!
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Post by ...Bees? on Mar 2, 2021 1:49:05 GMT
Hey Avo, we sure did have a time together, huh? I liked in your speech that you included a section addressing each and every one of the jurors and talking to them on a personal level, that's very smart. Not spoiling Grogu's feels a type of way, and it sounds like y'all have some issues to work out, but I thought it was a very good touch. That being said, your speech left me wanting more than everybody else did. I'm not super excited about the speeches, but T/H and Rey gave me more of a sense of what they were thinking each and every round, yours was more of a general approach you had to this game. (which i totally want the others to do now actually, but hey). In the last PM I sent to you, while it was a bit emotionally charged, I did mean what I said about it seemed like you were playing round by round without looking forward to the future and planning accordingly. That being said, I imagine that the reason that was my perspective was because I was not a part of those plans. Your speech didn't exactly give me more insight into that however, so, you do get my first question: How were you planning for the future? Were you in fact playing this game per round, or were all of your actions to a specific end goal. Not just you being here at the end, but rather with specific people in mind? Or were you actually in fact playing solely to survive yet another round.I'm not looking for a specific answer, so I'd prefer you be honest like you typically were, even when perhaps you shouldn't have been . But also, I don't know that I've seen a player be so focused on keeping themselves in a game as fiercely as you have been and have it be successful. You may have made choices that caused you a lot of problems and kept the focus on you and people upset with you, but you never once actually lost your fire for this game, and for a bastard game this draining, that is admirable as fuck, and I applaud that.
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Post by Avocado on Mar 2, 2021 1:49:59 GMT
holy shit bard are you a sight for sore eyes
YEAH i think that thats my fault. i got caught up in a mess of long winded thought and that turned out to make for a really big speech that i ended up pouring way too much heart and soul into
1. my first 'best move' in this game was actually the plagueis boot of all things. plagueis and i had hit it off with one another VERY early on into this game when we were both exiled at the second swap, and we formed a pretty good relationship that we planned on carrying on when we met later. so when we were placed on the cardinal red tribe with you, droids, and maggie, we had that pre-existing bond with one another that he expected me to carry on throughout this game. however, i found that maggie happened to be an absolute delight to talk to, and that plagueis had majorly dropped the ball in terms of conversation. so instead of preserving a pre-existing connection in plagueis to keep an easy number, i extended the olive branch to maggie, allowed her to know what was going on, and formed a close bond with her that would end up majorly benefitting my standing with her and my allies moving forward in the game. it also had the side bonus of saving my ass from her prime number idol that came out in that tribal council, and definitely got the ball rolling in terms of my connections heading into the shipwreck and the bond that we would keep even through rough times such as when i voted her based on t/h's suggestion
2. my second best move in the game was eliminating my former ally in ranger instead of targeting plagueis or cleric, the two more obvious targets for me. instead of bringing him back as the maroon tribe expected, i chose not to risk repeating history and brought cleric back instead, something that greatly improved my relationships with rey and allowed me to reconcile with her and grogu by distinguishing myself from the standard maroon alliance as someone who was open to working with practically anyone and had a very open mind as far as the game itself went. while ranger would have been an easy number, he also would have been just as easy of a boot, and it's because of his own elimination that i was able to bury the hatchet with two people that i had offended previously and prove my mettle moving forward
3. i think my third best move isn't a big one, but more of a subtle, behind the scenes one that took out someone who would inevitably see me as a threat down the line. when people started to express doubts about dave thomas, founder of wendy's, i took advantage of the good words that people had to say about him as well as the gaffes that he had made in order to inflate his threat level and make him seem to be the ringleader of a large, indominable alliance and managed to place the public perception of him as someone that would steamroll his way to the end as a leader, shield, and challenge beast when he lacked a lot of the control that had been associated with him. this also had the side effect of breaking down the alliance and connections that he did have, and his public callout of me and you may have put us in the hot seat, but such targeting was inevitable considering the circumstances that we were placed in previously and it cemented his fate as the first juror as well as having the side effect of saving you for the round.
maybe being identified as one of the biggest threats should i make the end made the road there all the more difficult, but it was the moves i made close to and at the beginning of the merge that planted the seeds for me to be able to save myself down the line should the target on my back put me at the risk of being voted out. i always made sure that i was seen as someone who could be picked up, put myself in places where people would need my assistance to proceed, and successfully managed to downplay my own threat level enough to claw my way here to the end with a chance at winning. maybe i didn't make the biggest or flashiest of moves, but i didn't need to when i was already sitting at the top.
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Post by Avocado on Mar 2, 2021 1:59:13 GMT
Hey Avo, we sure did have a time together, huh? I liked in your speech that you included a section addressing each and every one of the jurors and talking to them on a personal level, that's very smart. Not spoiling Grogu's feels a type of way, and it sounds like y'all have some issues to work out, but I thought it was a very good touch. That being said, your speech left me wanting more than everybody else did. I'm not super excited about the speeches, but T/H and Rey gave me more of a sense of what they were thinking each and every round, yours was more of a general approach you had to this game. (which i totally want the others to do now actually, but hey). In the last PM I sent to you, while it was a bit emotionally charged, I did mean what I said about it seemed like you were playing round by round without looking forward to the future and planning accordingly. That being said, I imagine that the reason that was my perspective was because I was not a part of those plans. Your speech didn't exactly give me more insight into that however, so, you do get my first question: How were you planning for the future? Were you in fact playing this game per round, or were all of your actions to a specific end goal. Not just you being here at the end, but rather with specific people in mind? Or were you actually in fact playing solely to survive yet another round.I'm not looking for a specific answer, so I'd prefer you be honest like you typically were, even when perhaps you shouldn't have been . But also, I don't know that I've seen a player be so focused on keeping themselves in a game as fiercely as you have been and have it be successful. You may have made choices that caused you a lot of problems and kept the focus on you and people upset with you, but you never once actually lost your fire for this game, and for a bastard game this draining, that is admirable as fuck, and I applaud that. yo bees, i appreciate the question because i think that i made it a major point of my game that i was always playing to survive round after round instead of trying to formulate some sort of master plan that would get me to the end with two goats or whatever the perception of the people sitting next to me would be the truth is, i'm not an experienced player. i have never made it past the early merge, and i've barely been a juror enough times to get a sense of what an ftc speech actually requires. if i were smart, i would try to play things up like i had some sort of master plan that came together, because that's what had happened in the pre-merge when i formed the alliances that would go on to keep me safe even in the most dire of situations. but the merge didn't exactly allow me to do that. for one, when i came into the shipwreck, rey openly admitted that she and cleric didn't have the best view of me based on what snow leopard had been said about me 'betraying' her back all the way on chocolate (a 'betrayal' that was barely that considering she saw me as a fourth fiddle at best and was throwing me under the bus, but i digress). while i may have intended to come into this merge with a specific configuration in mind for the end, i don't really think i was ever given the benefit of the doubt or as fair of a shake as other players had gotten. rey had the opportunities granted to her out of being a returnee and a lower threat level due to that, and t/h had his chances from playing utr and not sticking too close like bard and i had been. hell, you yourself admitted that you were making an active effort to not talk strategy with me or give me the chance to have ammunition that i could use to save myself (which was understandable, but it didn't exactly help out) on the other hand, i had been tightly associated with one of the biggest threats in the game, and even since the shipwreck, my name had been thrown out literally every single round in this whole merge as someone who flat out needed to go. and it's kind of hard to reach the end with any sort of desired configuration when you have to worry about a billion advantages, people who want to stab you in the face, and also looking out for the people you care about and who care about you (such as when i was fighting to defend bard in the alliance that i had with grogu and dark rey). eventually, i felt confident enough that if i did make it to the end, i would have one HELL of a story to tell, and as such, i put my focus on surviving round after round. and do i feel like i played a strong game worthy of a win next to my other two finalists? hell yes. i've been through more than anyone else, and i've had to drag myself through hell and back just to survive. with so many people wanting my head on a pike, i was never given the opportunity to form a master plan like some other people could afford the luxury of hopefully that answers your question, but if there's anything i need to clarify just lemme know
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Post by ...Bees? on Mar 2, 2021 2:04:58 GMT
It does, yes! And I appreciate that with your answer you're showing you did have quite a bit of self-awareness about what you were and weren't doing and were trying to manage your perception and other people's perceptions as well. I'll have more for you almost definitely, but I think there's other people I wanna let get their questions in before I do that.
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Post by Avocado on Mar 2, 2021 2:07:04 GMT
ok sick. thanks for the question my guy. thats something ive been thinking about a lot, and obviously i dont have the perfect answer to it but i AM proud of the fact that despite everyone wanting me dead at one point or another i managed to snag my spot all the way here at the final tribal for the first time ever
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Post by Grogu on Mar 2, 2021 2:11:24 GMT
Between the other two returnees, who do you feel played the best game, and why?
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Post by Avocado on Mar 2, 2021 2:15:03 GMT
i'm going to be speaking from a biased perspective here, so you should really take my answer with a grain of salt, but because i got more insight into t/h's game and i was able to see the decisions that we made together more clearly, i feel like i have a greater understanding of the things that they did and an appreciation for that to boot. i don't have as clear of a view on what dark rey did because we weren't as heavily associated with one another as the hydra and i were, so that's something that i'll have to keep an eye on as this final tribal council moves forward. so if you're going to ask me specifically, my perception is that t/h played better given my comprehension of the moves that we were able to make (and the fact that they were never voted out), but obviously my word is not law and dark rey could very easily prove me wrong
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Post by Avocado on Mar 2, 2021 2:29:57 GMT
WAIT FUCK YOU SAID RETURNEES HOLD ON
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Post by Avocado on Mar 2, 2021 2:33:58 GMT
personally, i feel like i have the better insight of dark rey's game than i do of cleric's. maybe that's because of the alliance we had, maybe that's because she was particularly averse to making enemies with me even after i soft pushed her name, but i always felt like she was a generally cool and relaxed person like me (and i'm sure that cleric himself would probably agree that she's cool as well). so similarly to my last response, i would say that dark rey played the better game based on how she has been able to sell herself here, and she's had a very difficult road to the end and will have to make an uphill battle in this ftc to the point where her effort should definitely be respected. not to say that cleric didn't have an admirable game either, but i think dark rey and i conversed more and i got a better look at what she was able to do with the hand that she had been dealt. so i would say that dark rey played better, but obviously that's my own opinion
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