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Post by Supervisor Silverclaw on Jan 9, 2021 18:12:44 GMT
... What? I like puns.
I'll be using this thread occasionally to post power rankings in for everyone to watch and judge.
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Post by Supervisor Silverclaw on Jan 11, 2021 6:14:49 GMT
I'm going to do a quick, loose ranking to get things started. Let's split the game up into several not-equal sections of relative power.
Rank 1 - Strong
...Bees? Avocado Snow Leopard Bonobo
Rank 2 - Average
Dave Thomas, Founder of Wendys Bard Ranger Timothée Chalamet Lindsay Lohan & Lindsay Lohan Gummy Bear The Tortoise & The Hare The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis Dark Rey
Rank 3 - Weak
Zero III Monk Michael Cera Pineapple C-3P0 & R2-D2 Finn
Rank 4 - VERY Weak
Hatsune Miku Maggie Smith Beef Jerky
Rank 5 - Non-existant
Cleric Wolf
If you want to ask questions on these, feel free! I may explain later once we get more details on the players.
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Post by Can Opener on Jan 12, 2021 3:58:35 GMT
I would put Maggie Smith up a tier, especially now that she's won Immunity. I know she was in danger on her tribe, but I just don't think she's at the same level as people like Beef Jerky and Hatsune. I also think you overrated The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis based on what we've seen so far. You're saying he's the strongest on the tribe or tied with Dark Rey? It seems like he's about to go home, especially since he got a very bad challenge outcome here. But even before the challenge outcome, we knew either he or Finn was likely the boot.
Your top people I mostly agree with, but I think we'll get a better sense of things once there are bigger tribes. It can be easy to run a 4-person tribe, but you also can just happen to be with people you don't connect with as much and there aren't that many places to go.
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Post by Supervisor Silverclaw on Jan 12, 2021 5:08:55 GMT
I think you're looking at this information over today's lens, instead of yesterday night's.
At the time, Maggie was a surefire vote and Plagueis and Dark Rey had the only real connection on the tribe.
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Post by Can Opener on Jan 12, 2021 7:53:19 GMT
Yeah could be.
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Post by Can Opener on Jan 12, 2021 7:53:48 GMT
Though I think even yesterday Maggie looked better than Beef Jerky
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Post by Supervisor Silverclaw on Jan 12, 2021 16:49:54 GMT
Tbh I thought Maggie was the consensus vote that night, which is why I placed her down there.
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Post by Supervisor Silverclaw on Jan 13, 2021 19:07:11 GMT
OK, let's get this show on the road, yeah? Redemption Island 1) Cleric - I'm really happy for Cleric, actually. To see someone flub the first phase by not being here for a day, and then come into RI swinging like this? It's nice to see. I think Cleric has set them up for success here really well. They seem to be at the top of the initial pegging order for Redemption Island, and looks like a strong contender to make it all the way.
2) Michael Cera - Whoever the Movie Stars tribe booted was always going to do well in here to start, and Michael Cera really has come out swinging. Cera seems to be in a strong position with Cleric to make it deep into RI, and I'm really pleased with this.
3) Dark Rey - This is a bit of a struggle between Wolf and Dark Rey. I'm going to place Dark Rey here because I know their capabilities, and it seems like she just vanished at the wrong time, but can make up ground here if they work on Cleric. She's got solid gamesense, and probably shouldn't even be in here lmao. If she survives this TC, I think Dark Rey should be set to go far in RI.
4) Wolf - Wolf seems to be here, but I'm not sure how much. For now, they seem like a straggler on Cleric's alliance, but I'd like to see what Wolf can do on their own. I don't have much to say for Wolf, but long term prospects are not good. If you ask me, I don't know how long Cleric will want to keep Wolf over Dark Rey.
5) Hatsune Miku - She's in a bit of a bad spot, and probably needs an Immunity run to make it far. No one seems too impressed with her, and I don't know if Hatsune sees this. I suspect Hatsune could really struggle to do well here, and will be removed in short order.
6) Beef Jerky - Basically inactive. Dead to rights.
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Post by Supervisor Silverclaw on Jan 13, 2021 19:52:35 GMT
Chocolate Tribe This is going to be a fun list, and I'm sure there's going to be a lot of dissention for this one. With that said, let's get this party started.
1) Ranger - OK, wild moves first. Between the budding Bardvocado relationship, and the animals wanting Ranger on their own, Ranger's clearly in the best position on this tribe, because he gets to decide how the cards fall when things fall apart. If he wants to stick with Bard and make that alliance the clear winner, it's on the table. Nonetheless, an animals + Ranger alliance would secure half the tribe after this round. All things are looking up for Ranger, who is set for the tribe.
2) The Tortoise & The Hare - Admittedly I'm saying this with info that hasn't hit the spec table yet, but Tortoise/Hare are the key to an animals alliance working, but they've kept their options open and have been slowly expanding their sphere of influence. I firmly believe that when the dust settles, Tortoise/Hare will be in a great position moving forwards.
3) Avocado - I feel like people have been overselling Avocado a bit. Sure, their basically guaranteed to make it through the tribe, and yes Bardvocado is the new OTP, but Avocado he been blundering a bit by being incredibly open with tribal dynamics, which has allowed other people to sneak in and exploit that [note: Tortoise/Hare are looking to vote Pineapple because of this].
4) Bard - Bardvocado is cool, and will be a powerhouse later down the line, but for now it's more of a sidenote to how Chocolate is going to function than a big point. But Bard's in a solid position, and I'm not going to count Bard out before the lute starts playing.
5) Bonobo - I've not heard much from or about Bonobo, but for now that's alright. There's some resentment between Bonobo and Snow Leopard which may boil over before the tribe ends, but I'm pretty confident Bonobo will come out on top there. All in all, seems to be doing fine.
6) Gummy Bear - I have no qualms with Gummy Bear, but I believe that Gummy Bear should make it through thanks to their Avocado alliance. Seems to be very middle of the pack here, though.
7) Snow Leopard - Snow Leopard could be in hot water after a little while in this tribe. Their playing very fast and loose, and it'll be very problematic in the long run. I just hope it doesn't crash too hard and fast, because I like Snow Leopard.
8) Monk - Monk has gotten off to a very slow start, and I'm not convinced they can dig their way out of it, as Monk has no one to turn to when things start to go south for him, and has made them into a fairly easy consensus vote.
9) Pineapple - Pineapple seems to have been missing for most of the swap so far, which is bad enough as it is, let alone when you don't have any alliancemates to keep you afloat. I don't think Pineapple can make it through this vote.
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Post by Supervisor Silverclaw on Jan 13, 2021 20:16:44 GMT
Dark Olive GreenThis tribe is more about who I think is at the bottom than who I think is at the top, because frankly I have no bloody clue, so we're going to work from the bottom and work our way up.
9) The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis - This has been a bad series of events for Plagueis. He got caught redhanded on the vote, and has scrambled way too hard to make up for it, creeping out the entire tribe. So far, it looks like people are not so keen on him and that could get him the boot quickly. That said, I think he can get his act together very quickly and be in a good spot if he stops exploding.
8) Finn - General opinion of Finn is that he's not someone people want to work with, and that's a big problem. Finn needs to catch up to speed pretty fast here, or really risk going home.
7) Timothée Chalamet - I feel like Timothée is in a slightly better spot than Finn, but not by much. We know how he's thinking, but it hasn't seemed to translate into anything yet. I'm worried for him long term.
6) Zero III - Zero would be largely interchangeable with spot 7, except for the fact that they just asked Robots to ally with them. I think Robots gets the better end of the deal here, but this should help Zero stay in the know.
5) C-3PO & R2-D2 - Their working their way into the tribe slowly, but has managed a comfortable position in the tribe, I think. I'd be surprised if they managed to get booted from the tribe.
4) Dave Thomas, Founder of Wendy's - Dave's in a good position with Bees, who I expect to have a very important role on this tribe. That should be enogh to keep Dave safe for a long time on this tribe.
3) Maggie Smith - Between a close relationship to Lindsay and maybe the only connection to Timothée Chalamet, Maggie's in a position of relative power. She also seems to be very endearing in very few messages, which is enough to make it through this tribe with ease.
2) ...Bees? - The bees knees are buzzing right now, and oh boy are they in a spot where they can make stuff happen. I expect this tribe to run between Bees? and Lindsay Lohan & Lindsay Lohan, even though that's a bit of a guess.
1) Lindsay Lohan & Lindsay Lohan - I'm incredibly impressed by the Lindsay's abilities here, and I foresee a great future for them in this tribe. A good relationship with Bees and Maggie is probably enough to make the tribe sway to Lindsay's whims, and we know that Lindsay knows how to get their way when needed. [/i][/font][/div][/div]
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Post by Owen Wilson as Kenny Bostick on Jan 13, 2021 20:27:35 GMT
I don't think Avocado cares about losing Pineapple though? Like, Avocado will be good regardles. I think Avocado is in great shape between all the animals clamoring to ally up, and having a great relationship with Ranger/Bard. Avocado can accept the alliance with the animals and then just bump Pineapple and Monk, without betraying the animals to do so, and get just what he wants for the next couple phases. And he could lose those two people and still be able to strike at an animal if he wants to. Basically I think Avocado is in complete control of that tribe for now but could be targeted as a "big threat" down the road.
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Post by Supervisor Silverclaw on Jan 13, 2021 20:31:12 GMT
Hmm, let me say it this way.
If anything interesting happens, it's not because Avocado wants it to happen, it's because Ranger will allow it. While Avocado is the most visible player, Ranger has the same connections and is also more lowkey about it, allowing him to play the vote however he wants.
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Post by Can Opener on Jan 13, 2021 23:25:16 GMT
Why did you put Maggie Smith so high? I haven't heard anyone say they like or connect with her so far. She was mostly absent when the swap first happened and I'm not sure if she's stepped it up since then, but she doesn't seem safe by any means.
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Post by Supervisor Silverclaw on Jan 13, 2021 23:26:43 GMT
I think it's a bit of bias and a bit of connections to Lindsay, mostly.
I'll be honest, I'm probably very wrong about Dark Olive.
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Post by Can Opener on Jan 13, 2021 23:30:12 GMT
I mean now people are saying that Movie Stars might be on the outs which I would never have guessed based on last round. It seemed like Star Wars would be in trouble here, but maybe people like Zero and Finn and Plagueis will run this tribe! Who would have guessed?
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